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EPA Administrator Says Over Half of Americans are Not ‘Normal Human Beings’

Posted by Eudaimonia 8 years, 9 months ago to Politics
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Any further doubts as to where this administration is leading us?

We are officially no longer "normal human beings"

You may not live as one of us,
You may not live among us,
You may not live.
SOURCE URL: http://www.ijreview.com/2015/06/354635-epa-administrator-says-half-americans-not-normal-human-beings/


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    Posted by $ jbrenner 8 years, 9 months ago
    I will agree with the EPA administrator that "over half of Americans are not 'normal human beings'", but for a completely different reason. I will argue that over half of the American population has a mental disorder of one type or another. That mental disorder manifests itself as "liberalism". Most of those with these mental disorders accept unearned guilt and are generally in denial about reality in America.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 9 months ago
    Anthropogenic global climate change is a straw man argument designed to strengthen the power of the state over the individual. To the extent that there is a problem, which I will not deny, the best solution lies in the hands of entrepreneurial technology unencumbered by senseless regulations not a bunch of politicians and bureaucrats pretending to be scientists. A close examination of most of the models employed by the climate mongers are static rather than dynamic. Recent NASA data reveals that the increase in atmospheric CO2 has stimulated dramatic growth in rain forest and other vegetation. This acts as a natural carbon sequestration mechanism that places an upper limit on carbon content in the atmosphere. This is a dynamic phenomena that is conveniently ignored by those that wish to use AGW as a political tool.
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    • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 9 months ago
      Yes. The arable farm land footprint was actually shrinking (as was the Sahara!) and forests were increasing all over the world...until biofuels caused more land to be put under cultivation (and deprived world populations of maize) and energy restrictions forced people to start cutting down trees for wood to warm their houses.

      Jan
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago
    Only the elite 0.1% are "normal human beings". Everyone else is sub-human, have no rights, and will be treated as beasts of burden by "normal human beings" to be slaughtered whenever convenient. Production is irrelevant. Only pull matters.
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  • Posted by gerstj 8 years, 9 months ago
    Yes, and for the Gaia worshipers, there would be only a small population of 100 million humans on the planet. They rest are an infection on the planet and must be eliminated.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago
      Thanks for pagan goddess messing with my Old Dino imagination.
      I just envisioned the EPA filled with Wiccans and led by druid priests who' like to put all man-made climate change deniers inside The Wicker Man.
      Carbon trailer Al Gore would approve of the smoke.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago
        Since I am an Erisian, I would prefer Eris, the Greek Goddess of Chaos to be a part of this. Look at the success she's having in Greece. She might pull down the entire Euro fiasco.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago
          I'm kinda partial to--boo!--Hecate myself.
          She can dwell in the mess that Chaos leaves.
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          • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago
            I'm sure they'll hook-up. Both go both ways.
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            • Posted by Technocracy 8 years, 9 months ago
              Greek Gods in the literature went far more than both ways.
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              • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago
                Ok, enough with theology. Let's talk about real stuff, like the wonderful legacy BHO will leave us.
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                • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago
                  I thought the ancient Celtic theology had devolved into ancient Greek mythology.
                  Sometimes I refer to the Marxist Utopia (what the BHO legacy is to help lead us to) simply as "Candy Mountain" here.
                  I derive the hope and change of Candy Mountain from the first Charlie the Unicorn cartoon to appear on YouTube.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SJFg7gq...

                  After posting the above, I watched the cartoon all the way through for the first time in maybe two years.
                  This time the ending caused me to think of Obamacare.
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                  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago
                    I thought you were referring to "The Big Rock Candy Mountain" as sung by the great Burl Ives. It relates the fantasy of a hobo who never worked for a living.
                    "Oh, the buzzin' of the bees
                    And the cigarette trees,
                    The soda water fountain,
                    All can be found
                    When you turn around
                    At the big rock candy mountain."
                    It's the lazy man's tale of a bum's paradise. Sort of like the promises of the left and Obama, versus reality.
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                    • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago
                      Just the words "Candy Mountain" pretty well adds up to a Kool-Aid drinking Libtard's dream of the hope and change Socialist Utopia all forcibly paid for--for freaking forever--by the evil rich.
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  • Posted by tdechaine 8 years, 9 months ago
    One thing for sure: Gina is not normal. She has never been able to prove any of the "science" to which she adheres. Environmentalists think that the existance of some (little) warming in some places over some specific period of time constitutes man-made GW of serious proportions. And to ensure that we just accept such leaps of faith, they want to close science on this issue. Such gaul.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 8 years, 9 months ago
    After watching the You Tube Video all I can say is: Huh! I believe that the employees of the Federal Govt are now speaking Orwell's "Newspeak". The same is being adopted by SCOTUS.
    Let's say that the US adopts all these restrictions are then going to force the whole populated world to do the same? Are the employee's and elected bureaucrats think the weather just resides in the US? The Think Tanks and other organizations have multidegreed individuals researching the enviroment and envision this garbage. I'm beginning to believe Glen Becks idea that we don't want these people in our government. Throw all these high and mighty people in the street. Hire individuals who have some experience and are rational.
    It's not gooing to matter! Anyway where is the new type of power that is not going to be non- polluting. The high taxes in this country and special interests styme any inovation.
    Hello, BHO we are only one country and no one else is really follow our lead! You have created an America Who!?
    This whole administration verbalizing so much Newspeak to sow confusion into the population that individual thought will be scrambled eggs. How can anyone consider beauracrats and elected officials human beings. They are not!
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago
    She's talking about themselves...(everyone in government) which happens to match my own observations. The kakistocracies are inhabited by non humans.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 8 years, 9 months ago
    This woman is one of the ones who is not normal.
    She blames everyone except government, for change, and then things dictating to real people will solved a non-problem of climate change. Is she were genuinely interested in climate change, she would be calling for answers to what the Russian, US governmental and private, little climate control installations are doing to weather. Instead, that is a dirty little secret which is never mentioned. Funny how HAARP's heatingof the ionosphere is okay, but oh, that is so far secret now that you can't even find what is going on. Still, there is Obama's pet HAMP, which reportedly can move storms, especially when politically advantageous. These wackos are all rhetoric and no brains. -
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago
    Depends on the fulcrum or pivot point and then how much does Tweedle Hi and Tweedle Ho weigh.

    The If the center is Normal and one direction is abnormal what is the antonym?

    Where is the fulcrum or pivot point located

    Whose to say?

    If over half are not normal then it begs the question why not and asks why didn't you move the pivot point so that teeter could totter?
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 9 months ago
    Normal is one of those buzzwords that liberals misuse to fit their ideology. If you don't bow at the altar of progressivism, you're not "normal" according to them.

    I've always been proud of being an _abnormal_ human being. I think. I question. I don't blindly believe the government is the be-all and end-all of supreme rulership.
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  • Posted by cjferraris 8 years, 9 months ago
    I'm doing my part to battle the increased CO2 production, I planted trees in my yard.. What has the government done other than try to tax their way to lower CO2?
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago
    I dont believe anything that our government says actually. They have too many hidden agendas and have lost my trust. If the planet is warming, its warming at some slow rate that anyone living close to the ocean in low lying areas has enough time to move. Weather changes all the time, and the earth has heated and cooled many times over its existence. Why paying a carbon tax to governments is going to stop it, I really have my doubts....
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 9 months ago
    Well, let's be a little fair to the quoted administrator here. When she speaks of "climate deniers" she probably is referring directly to those who affirmatively advocate for the position that climate change is not occurring and deny the scientific validity of whatever studies she relies upon as showing the opposite. In other words, activists on this issue who take what is apparently a minority view in the scientific community with which she is familiar. Hers are the words of a frustrated advocate. She may well be wrong, but her barbs are directed at a narrowly defined group not the majority of people. At least that's the way I read her.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
      Strongly disagree.

      No one claims that "climate change" is not occurring.

      The climate *must* change, it is its nature.

      What we "deniers" claim is that
      1) The majority of the warming has been caused by the sun, not man.
      2) Since the sun started a solar-minimum cycle 10 years ago, there has been no "warming" recorded for the past ten years (supporting the claim made in 1)
      3) The 10 million year (or however long it is) data points tracking CO2 and heat are a strong correlation, however logic dictates that correlation is *not* causation (i.e.: the sun could be causing the carbon dioxide through greater evaporated seawater, or a third factor exists which causes both heat and CO2)
      4) The "science" is bogus: from Monnett and Gleason's naked plea for funding ("peer reviewed" by Monnett's wife) which gave us Al Gore's polar bears, to East Anglia destroying data which did not fit the climate models, to Mann's hockey stick algorithm being debunked.
      5) The "science" is political: the UN, globalist politicians, and even the Pope are pushing the idea in order to implement a global tax through the UN making the UN a de facto world governing body.
      6) The "science" is consensus, by their own admission.
      7) The "science" is a religion: the theory does not allow a method by which it can be disproved, so, according to Karl Popper (and echoed by Michael Crichton), it is the very definition of a religion. A religion complete with an apocalypse preacher (failed PhD in divinity studies) Al Gore and Papal support.

      I may not be normal, but at least I'm not a religious zealot, useful idiot, who thinks Galileo should have shut the fuck up.
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      • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 9 months ago
        Well said, but for me at least you've left out a few items.

        8) The "science" is a deliberate fraud. Mann in particular designed and tweaked his so-called model to produce the result he wanted for political reasons. You can read this in his own e-mails in Montford's "The Hockey Stick Illusion".
        9) The institutions that control both most scientific funding (research grants) and the "peer review" process, have become controlled by the fraudsters. It's easy to phony up a "consensus" when any scientist who speaks up against you stands to have his career taken away.
        10) Even if the most extreme claims of "climate change" were all true, it has yet to be shown that it would adversely affect human beings at all, much less be the catastrophe predicted by IPCC; and
        11) Even if you could also prove that catastrophe, there are known, simple ways to reverse that change at a much lower economic cost than the outrageous sacrifices the UN and EPA want to impose on us.

        The big problem with the "believers'" whole argument is its reliance on the "precautionary principle," which is exactly backwards. The correct principle is this -- Extraordinary demands on other people require extraordinary proof. (Apologies to David Hume.)
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      • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 9 months ago
        Actually, you just proved my point. Look at the seven statements you just made. I agree that they constitute with some variation the claims of "deniers" referred to by the administrator. What percentage of people do you think would indicate approval of those points? The fifty three percent referenced in the article? Of course not. The administrator believes that those in agreement, the "deniers," are a very small coterie who are highly resistant to whatever "evidence" she cites to support her position. She is frustrated by that and in her frustration she used insulting language to describe them (i.e. she calls them not "normal"). That was intemperate. Sort of like calling someone you know little of a "religious zealot, useful idiot."
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        • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
          "Sort of like calling someone you know little of a 'religious zealot, useful idiot.'"
          Absolutely nothing like it at all.
          Ms. McCarthy is the head of a government agency which wields a ridiculous amount of unconstitutional power.
          It is *her job* to wield that power as temperately and fairly as she can, and if the power is too much for her, to step the f*** down.
          I am a political satirist.
          It is *my job* to ridicule the snot out of those who abuse their power; the more "intemperate" the ridicule, the more temperately I am doing my job.

          I wield *no power*, "intemperate" language from me results in a controversial piece.
          McCarthy wields *tons of power*, intemperate language from people in similar positions has resulted in gulags and cattle-cars.

          Ms. McCarthy attacked people like me as "not normal".
          I attacked back that she is a "religious zealot, useful idiot, who thinks Galileo should have shut the fuck up".
          She set the terms of the debate... and a political satirist responded in kind.
          My response is not intemperance, it is *fair game*... plus, I backup up my attack with relevant claims.

          " What percentage of people do you think would indicate approval of those points? The fifty three percent referenced in the article? Of course not."
          I will not quibble over the percentage, although I obviously think that it is way closer to 53% than you do.
          The real question is "Do we as a people tolerate whatever percentage of people to whom Ms. McCarthy was referring to be chucked into a cattle-car? Even if that percentage is 0.0000001%? And even if that percentage was verified stubborn and wrong?"

          My answer is, "Hell, no."
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          • Posted by khalling 8 years, 9 months ago
            Perhaps "not normal"s have increased in percentage since the revelation of not one, not two, but several important data collecting by NOAA, climate *scientists,* and universities were fudged, excluded and simply made up to present a *scientific* case for man-made global warming. These same studies are pushed as agendas within agency legislating bodies even now as they have been exposed for lying in studies and not using ethical scientific methods to collect and report their data. The recent polls reflect Americans' understanding that climate change attributed to human beings has been exaggerated. We were duped. Well, I was not. http://www.gallup.com/poll/182105/concer...
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          • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 9 months ago
            Eudaimonia: I'm not sure labeling oneself as a political satirist provides a free pass to grossly overstate or be rude but the First Amendment recognizes that everyone has that right. Even Ms. McCarthy. But that doesn't exempt her (or you) from criticism. That's why I fault her for her statement that those who disagree with her are not normal. The author of the article overstated his case by attempting to make the pretty obviously wrong point that she was smearing "over half" of Americans as abnormal. I take it you agree.
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            • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
              Well, thank you for recognizing my First Amendment right to write political satire as I have for the past six years.
              Maybe in another six, I will be an actual satirist, not merely a self-labeled one.

              I overstated nothing.
              Neither did the article.
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              • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago
                Example of overstating fits this thread. At the top it says over fifty percent. In itself unusual as we were taught even back in the days of fairly decent education that 50% carries a special cache so round up to the next higher number. Even though 50% is the lower half and should be rounded down So let's suppose that the over 50% was 50.000000000001.% Yes round up. But now we are left to wonder what does over 50% mean? If this were politbureauspeak it would be described as greater than the 50% required then close to 100% then a landslide by the time it got to the FMSM. That's how balanced budgets with a surplus are made and elections contested- out of very thin air. Fifty percent of what? All humans. I checked and found the claimed number is 7.324.782.000. 2015. and nine billion by 2040. No sweat I'll give up my space. Maybe. On the other hand 3,662,391,001 and 3,662,391,999 is greater and lesser than 50%.If we put one end in the ocean will the teeter totter turn into a slide? Only the crabs know for sure. To be more exact the population of the Western hemisphere where I live exceeds one billion by a little bit with three major languages. The other half is a bit under six billion with a new language every 100 kilometers. Put another way 88% live in the northern hemisphere about 5,600,000,000. Still too much. 387,500,000 is South America. the least populated. This is where politics gets in the way. Do we head south letting the other hemisphere do the same? After all and like Los Angeles they used up more than their fair share of land. Or do we blame South America for not using their fair share and giving back the rest?

                Question for someone else. Or a problem for an Objective Satirest. Back to you Eudaimonia! join us again anytime different station and remember Australia Oz1 might be the answer. Cognitive first Communicate 2nd.
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                • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
                  I would like to respond, but I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say here.
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                  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago
                    Reminds me of Joe vs. The Volcano. Meg Ryan's second part of the three she played.Just be glad I didn't spell Satirest with a y.

                    Instead of I have no response to that a la Meg try DAMN I''m glad I didn't write that!

                    Actually i was trying to address the wider issue without purposes of evasion.

                    As for cattle cars the new buzz word is relocalization which applies to humans, food, and other resources. But especially to humans - with or without consent.
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              • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 9 months ago
                Actual or self labeled makes no difference of course. You and I have exactly the same free speech rights and I am definitely no satirist of any kind. That takes talent I lack. Back to the main point, you still believe the 53% comment was an accurate characterization of McCarthy's intent? I thought you conceded that it was not accurate but did not wish to quibble about it. Well there is no way to answer this with certitude without asking Ms. McCarthy who undoubtedly would not talk about it because she is probably ashamed she characterized anyone as abnormal simply because they refused to be convinced by her "evidence."
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                • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
                  I conceded nothing, I merely recognized the futility of arguing with *you* about it.

                  I notice that you have not addressed the wider issue beyond what the actual percentage is.

                  So, then, cattle-cars?
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                  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 9 months ago
                    Huh? The only issue I raised was one regarding whether McCarthy actually meant to insult as abnormal a majority of Americans. That was the position taken by the author of the article in question. See the title of this thread. I thought it was a stretch to say so based on the cited poll. If that is what you mean regarding the "wider issue" then I have already addressed it and you apparently find it futile to comment further about it. If you mean some new issue I'll be glad to render an opinion but keep in mind I am neither a climate scientist nor a satirist so my view may not carry much weight with you.
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