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Reality doesn’t exist until we measure it, quantum experiment confirms

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 10 months ago to Science
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Everyone taunted me when I stated my position on the adage "If a tree falls in the forest...", remember? Turns out I am/was thinking in quantum physics terms.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 8 years, 10 months ago
    Hello AJAshinoff,
    These studies and their findings are always a brain twister. I have no doubt reality exists in the world in which I can observe with the naked eye. Always in the back of my mind, I can't help but wonder if our methods of observation of these subatomic particles somehow change the behavior... that there is just something we don't yet understand about why we observe what we do.
    I am just glad to be able to trust the world I operate in to Newtonian physics as close enough. :)
    Very interesting stuff.
    O.A.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 10 months ago
    A way of thinking about this phenomenon arose in Zen study several centuries ago and very loosely stated is that; 'The purpose of life is to give form to reality', Life in the context of all of biology that has the capacity to sense and react.

    It's best thought of as a mental exercise and can even be related to Objectivism through the goal of seeing reality as it is, unfiltered by preconceptions, illusions/delusions, feelings, and non-rationality. And that reality is present and now.

    Three forms of the five Zen are defined as 'outside religion' for any that might think I've been tempted to the 'dark side'.

    Edited for clarity.
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    • Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 10 months ago
      First, it's Bohr, not Born. Next, (X,Y) can have no variance from (Y,X). It's the exact same position in a 2 dimensional framework. A photon is not an object, it's a measurement without mass. You might want to rephrase your comment to make some sense.
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        • Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 10 months ago
          As you say, but Born's equation was (qp)-(pq) with p representing momentum, and are matrix algebra terms, not (xy)-(yx) which are 2 dimension algebra terms. It's important to not conflate terms and languages when trying to communicate.

          I never did enjoy matrix algebra.
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