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Tomorrowland-People Felt Brow-Beaten By Clooney's Performance

Posted by khalling 8 years, 11 months ago to Entertainment
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Even liberal critics are criticizing Clooney's character (not so different from real life character) over Global warming. How can it possibly be subtle then, as some have suggested. It's tanking at the box office. For those who saw the movie and loved it, what say you? from the article:
“Clooney seems to have been cast as much for his liberal credentials as for his star power, and it’s a choice that can’t help but leave a somewhat smug aftertaste,” writes Variety film critic Justin Chang. “He’s almost too fitting a spokesman for a movie that urges humanity to end all wars, take responsibility for the environment, and foster a greater, more alert engagement with the world around us.”
and THAT's the point
SOURCE URL: http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/05/24/clooneys-global-warming-shaming-movie-tomorrowland-bombs-at-box-office/


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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 11 months ago
    The non-acting abilities of Clooney aside, the problem with being critical of this film is that the world IS falling apart, and the dreams of that glorious future are looking pretty dim today. The question is, do we work to fix it or is it George Orwell and Ray Bradbury that we have to look forward to? In my opinion, the film leans heavily on the left, but throws in just enough of the optimistic right to entice everyone to think positively of the film. The marketing ploy in the picture is nothing compared to the ploy used by the Disney people to get a positive spin on the movie.
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 8 years, 11 months ago
    Heavy-handed preaching is not entertainment. Every story has a moral. Well-done it gets through the meme filter. Think of any Star Trek episode.

    On the other hand, I've always felt a propaganda push from the Disney operation, even if it's for patriotism and all-American values. Disney's prime directive, however, is always to make money, and who can fault them for that? They may be betting on this film to have enough longevity to bring in a profit. One weekend hardly accounts for that.
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    • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 11 months ago
      Hmm...the original Star Trek series did have good messages (so did The Twilight Zone, for that matter), but the Star Trek movies took on a clearly environmentalist tact that put me off. I can still watch the movies, but I have to keep myself from concentrating too hard on the underlying message, in order to enjoy them.

      The one show we absolutely banned in our house was Captain Planet. After just one episode of that Saturday morning cartoon, I saw what the societal planner had on their minds.
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  • Posted by slfisher 8 years, 11 months ago
    I didn't love all of it, but I did love the idea of all the creative people being able to go to their own place and not having to deal with politics and bureaucracy.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
    I saw it last night, and it was a movie that 'the parts were greater than the sum of the whole'. That is to say, there were a Lot of individual scenes which were well worth the price of admission. What was lacking was the overall logic.

    Do any of you recall Disney's ancient attempt at SciFi: The Black Hole? The one where a character says that her father was lost, "...searching for inhabitable life forms..."? That movie made it incredibly clear that Disney thinks, "This is SF, so it is all just make believe and doesn't have to make sense." This is the problem with Tomorrowland.

    The basic premise is that all the optimistic high-IQ people go Galt into a splinter Earth, beginning with Edison and Eiffel and Turing. (You can move back and forth between worlds, so they did not have to actually disappear from our Earth in order to begin the other Earth.) Without the dead weight of regulations and stupidity, the new Earth becomes the flying-car, jetpack, interstellar exploration world of the future we dreamt of as kids.

    So far, so good.

    But the other main thread is a really good teenage girl in the modern world (capable; not whiny; good actress). By 'our time' something has gone horribly wrong in the other Earth and in our Earth and it is all very bad. But when you try to fit the 'what' went wrong and 'why' it is all bad and 'where' all of the geniuses went on Other Earth...well, I started to hear a tiny voice in the back of my brain saying, "...searching for inhabitable life forms..."

    Not only did the plot arc not make sense, but it seemed to me that it emphatically did not matter to Disney that it did not make sense because it was 'just SF' and who would care. (You note that this is the same problem that Star Trek: Into Darkness had.)

    So while there were some incredible individual scenes, there was no climax, no triumph, no resolution. The dystopian Warming scenes at the beginning were wonderfully overdone (whomever the prof was with the whites-alll-around-her-hysterical-eyes was great and she should have a permanent character role in the Industry), but they were completely implausible at the end and there was absolutely no refutation of them - though an opportunity existed for this.

    Cloony (Frank Walker) was OK in parts, but where it would have meant most he totally fell through. Casey and Athena and the young Frank and some of the other characters sustained their parts. (The couple in the SF pawn shop were great.)

    Jan
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    • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 11 months ago
      an Atlantis is missing a movie reviewer, somewhere!
      oh. . we may be there already!!! -- j

      p.s. translation = SuperGoodReview and Thanks!!!
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      • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
        That is certainly a profession to which I had never aspired. If you let me just watch SF/Fantasy and not have to go to any movie that is socially significant (OK: Except Randist movies.), I can do the job!

        WooHoo. Another hobby/profession/whatever.

        Jan
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        • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 11 months ago
          really! . it's concise, insightful, thorough and smart;;;
          you gave credit to the fine supporting players and
          even to the lead, where deserved. . good review!!! -- j
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          • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
            The pity of it is that THIS is what we have spent many pixels discussing over the past few years: where to go Galt and create our own Gulch. A parallel Earth, peopled by a subset of genius level optimists? Wow!

            The images of the city and 'what they could do' were wonderful. I wanna!

            Jan
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            • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 11 months ago
              well, we kinda have a parallel earth here online, Jan,
              and we can relish the genius optimists here -- like
              you and Dr. Jim Brenner and others. . stick with it
              and who knows what'll happen?!!! -- j
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    • Posted by Hiraghm 8 years, 11 months ago
      As a matter of fact, I saw a Youtube video of that movie (well, the beginning) just yesterday. They'd played games with the lighting to protect from copyright, I guess, so it wasn't worth watching, but I watched as far as the "habitable life" comment.

      "Wasn't your father aboard the Cygnus?"
      "Yes, its mission was the same as ours; to find habitable life".

      As one movie critic put it, she made it sound like a shipload of fleas in search of a friendly dog.

      The lack of respect for hard science fiction comes from the decades of merging SF with fantasy.

      For example, the Alderson drive in the Falkenberg's Legion series and the Mote in God's Eye series of hard science fiction stories was actually named for a physicist at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory who helped Pournelle work out the science behind the jump engines.
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      • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
        I am sure they said to themselves, "It doesn't matter what she says, because it is all just throw away words and no one will understand them or care."

        Right...(now watch your box office drop)

        You'd'a thought that Disney would have learned, after 30 years of watching which SF productions were successful and which were not. SF, like Fantasy, must have meticulous and realistic plot and character development - because that is what grounds us to 'the people and the plan' in a hypothetical world full of the unexpected.

        Jan
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      • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
        Thanks for the correction on the quote - I was dredging up a 30 year old memory.

        They have to get the idea eventually that Science MATTERS and a rational plot MATTERS and believable character interactions MATTER. They will get this idea, Hiraghm. Won't they? Tell me it is so, please.....?

        Jan
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    • Posted by 8 years, 11 months ago
      it's always a matter of foundations. as slf said above, on one hand creative people would enjoy the "freedom" of creation without being hampered by govt. On the other hand, said creative types tend to vote for everyone in business to be hampered by regulation/restriction. It's philosophy by butterfly flight. The writer/director "lites" on great themes and points only to flutter away the next moment
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 8 years, 11 months ago
    Agreed. AMC wouldn't give me my money back. Clooney cant act and I'm tired of having this Climate scam shoved down my eye sockets and having to pay for the insult to my intelligence. .
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  • Posted by smichael9 8 years, 11 months ago
    My daughter, who leans a little to the left. couldn't handle the incessant climate agenda of the movie and left 40 minutes into it. She said that the "climate adherents" needed to take a time out. I agree.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 11 months ago
    Cinematic special effects no longer possesses the awe as it did during the stop-motion animation era when old dino was a kid.
    Transformer movies bore me.
    But I'd rather sit through one of those special effects action flicks than one that has a libtard propaganda timeouts.
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  • Posted by mccwho 8 years, 11 months ago
    Doesn't suprise me. Clooney... I have nothing good to say about him. I will not pay any price for any movie he is in. Why support him with your hard earned money?????
    I call all actors, save a few, cereal people, Flakes, Nuts, and Fruits, been saying this for 20 years. It's as true today as back then, maybe more so now. They are a bunch of people that make a living pretending to be something they ARE NOT. Then they expect everyone one to take them seriously because they pretended to be someone.
    Insert quote from Issac Asimov, "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” This is "Clowny's" life plan. :--))
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  • Posted by Ibecame 8 years, 11 months ago
    Glad I havent wasted my money on it. Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 51% Green.
    Is George Clooney related to Al Gore? Just wondering - after all not all correct parents are on the birth certificates.
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