I Know You Guys Think I'm The Sweetest Thing....BUT
OK. I want the 411 on Jade helm. I want people who have served or are in the military to weigh in. I am done with dealing with colonels
who call me an idiot. that's right-3 times this morning. k is an idiot who needs to stand in the corner. Who do I throw shit at?
who call me an idiot. that's right-3 times this morning. k is an idiot who needs to stand in the corner. Who do I throw shit at?
A two month operation over that large an area implies to me, a lengthy period of time identifying, locating, casing and planning to execute a coordinated snatch operation, but again, why the US.
The offered justifications and goals for JH are total nonsense. What could they possibly learn in uncontrolled US areas that would apply to out of the State's operations? Nothing. These guys aren't really used as the inconspicuous civilian spy types. This is just wrong, on so many levels.
What are they really doing while we pay all of our attention to the Southwest?
Anything else?
"Help, the paranoids are after me."
How else are they going to respond? Telling you that something was 'secret' or 'confidential' about what you asked would make it appear even worse, so...
people ask about classified stuff is "No comment."
the p.c. answer may be so distasteful that even a
bird colonel would have it stuck in his craw. -- j
p.s. p.c. answer might be urban search and
rescue after a natural disaster . . . and what
disaster? . massive earthquake? . El Niño
attack? -- scary stuff which they are not
interested in discussing?
In any case I just bought a Springfield M1A which is a semi-automatic M14 to complete my collection of every small arm I shot in Vietnam. I figure since the government trained me to use them they would be pleased that I didn't let all that training and experience go to waste. So I figure they would what me to stay prepared and to have the necessary tools and accessories to do so.
Jade Helm is beyond my comprehension, I have no idea what they are doing or trying to do. All I know is I care little about (my) death today, and would stand and fight again at any time or place to protect my freedom and the freedom of my family and friends. I appreciate the Japanese telling us about thinking there was a gun in every house in the US, it kept them out of here didn't it? Well, at least till after the war. And I think there was even a much better lesson learned back around 1775 about being prepared just in case. It's sort of like having a fire extinguisher around the house. I have several of them too.
And your comment about living in a 2nd world country; don't worry, at the rate we're going we'll soon catch up.
at bird colonel, O-6, going up. . ask an LC like Ollie
North, and you might get a straight answer. . I retired
at O-5, LC, but I was in the air force working with the
airplanes, so my guess would be that the higher-
ups would not turn, but the troops would. . turn
against the fascist elitist class, I mean -- turn against
the higher-ups and politicians like BHO and Hillary.
BHO's monster civilian police force is probably
designed to do an end-run around that possibility. -- j
Well, someone is Poed... :) The internet is full of links. I too would like to know more. It could just be a conspiracy theorist's dream, or not. The timing and government we have isn't exactly reassuring.
“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you”. ― Joseph Heller
Kindly throw the detritus down wind if you please. :^)
Sorry, I don't mean to laugh at your expense... sounds like you have had a tough time.
Regards,
O.A.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xjwBmR...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbQLKvfr... Axl Rose in a kilt- time frame 2 02
Yes, It is a sad day when one can even entertain such scenarios. I too have more years behind me than lay ahead. Still I still love my country, But if the government brought tyranny to its citizens, I would surely consider my choices and one would be to become an ex-pat if I didn't think my staying could help. Sad.
Regards,
O.A.
I took the opportunity in the mid 70's to leave the big apple on my sail boat and was a live aboard for 13 months half the time in the Bahamas. If things got that bad and i still had the physical capability as I currently have I would get another boat and do it again to the end of my days.
If I were younger today I would just pick up and live on a boat period.
As for helping, you would be at a loss unless all of the military people turned against the government, then your presence would be of value.
for medical care, the military could become yours! -- j
If I'm anywhere near an event like that, it will be with a camera, not a weapon. The false-flag op will take place, but if we can prove it on them, we can still win.
Along with the more obvious questions;
High turnover rate of high level military officers during this administration. Connection?
What part of the world are we expecting military action in on such a large scale? (yeah, I know)
In the wake of the Bundy Ranch and the Oregon standoff, wouldn't you want the military to present itself as a friendly force, if at all possible right now? What good reason could there possibly be to escalate tensions even further?
It has been postulated that obama (no spellcheck, I will not capitalize that!) needs/desires an emergency situation prior to the 2016 election. Is it possible they are playing both sides against each other? The military on one side conducting "necessary training" and conspiracy theorists on the other side blowing everything out of proportion but making everyone on both sides more and more paranoid until any given situation escalates beyond anybodies ability to control.
I have to work at avoiding the conspiracy theorist type thinking. They don't make it easy.
There are only 1200 soldiers involved. So with the exception of the JOAX force and a small force to do whatever the CRF mission is (maybe rescue an embassy or something similar?) - most of these elements will probably be command elements. They need to be scattered geographically to have real time practice in being scattered geographically. I suspect most of the training with the exception of a few exercises, will be computer simulation.
There is some thought that part of the exercise will involve E&E from a failed CRF event. If this is the case then the governor of TX might actually be playing a role in the exercise. Nothing like using the state guard and a suspicious public to actually provide a realistic backdrop for an E&E over a large area (eg - "escaping" from SE TX to NM).
Don't listen to the fear mongers. The military does these all the time. And they create phony maps of parts of the US all the time showing friendly and hostile areas. Alex Jones is a white Al Sharpton and should not be afforded much more credibility than that.
My battalion did some counter insurgency training in land between the lakes in KY at one point. The company assigned to be guerrillas actually asked for and got cooperation of some locals who let them hide in their barns, and use their property for caches.
hostile land which we train for -- like for iraq and
afghanistan....... . but this pertained to jade helm?
FB = facebook? -- j
411 is slang, code, an acronym for information... the lowdown. Jade Helm is the military exercise either going on or planned that resembles control of civilian uprisings. Google "Jade Helm' and you will find many entries.
I hope that helps,
Respectfully,
O.A.
http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/2d...
-- j
I think this is a military exercise and the only thing strange and new about it is that the reaction of the civilians shows that the gulf in trust between 'people' and 'people in uniform' (military; police) has grown large.
Jan
Training there is training for Middle-East warfare, again. Training for fighting radical Texans? They should be training in bar situations. There are a lot better, realistic conspiracies out there to be paranoid about.
Second I have seen similar exercises when stationed in Germany during the late 80’s and early 90’s. As soldiers we do need to train in as realistic a manner as possible and urban warfare is particularly grueling.
The question that I have is what urban area are they training for? The South West is not like any other area of America. The military should not be training for assaults in America. So what area of the world is similar to the American South West? None that I know of but I am certain that there may be one.
I do not want to come off as a conspiracy nut but I personally do not trust the Government in any way shape form or fashion. Therefore I am more disturbed by the Texas Governors response than I am by the original exercises and here’s why.
Let’s assume for a moment that there really is something to worry about. Is there any reason to trust the National Guard of the same branch of the service to be looking out for our best interest? Seems to me to be a convenient way to surreptitiously increase the troop numbers in an area.
Well that’s my 2 cent worth anyway.
I freely admit that I have less than 0 trust in the Government.
I wonder why khalling takes it to seriously then?
Do they expect those loyal to the Constitution to use their familiarity with the area to do guerilla warfare tactics against 0sama Barry's FEMA stormtroopers?
EDIT: capitalising Constitution.
Supposing someone say back in the 1980's who was pretty smart, and having just gone through Jimmy Carters mess with Iran and the Ayatollah's, were asked to look 40 years down the road at where the biggest potential hotbed and threat to the Western Way of life would come from?
Supposing they recognized that the middle east has been killing and fighting each other and everyone else for thousands of years to try and setup their new Islamic Empire.
Supposing they recognized that as technology and communication got better, and Moore's law was known back then that these lunatics would have an easier time recruiting and getting their radical messages out globally.
Now what area in the this country would provide a similar climate and topology, along with "urban" areas to get used to fighting in, "assuming" of course your planning on potentially having to spend a lot of time and resources to stop this future threat?
Seems the South West of this country would be pretty ideal to train and become prepared to deal with sand people.
Just a different perspective to think about.
Or it could just be the Liberal Democrats getting ready to gun grab and enslave "We the People..."
Honey's just to 'sticky' and when it gets in my beard and mustache, well just bad.
During my 20 years+ in the USAF, I never participated in an exercise that lasted 2 straight months, 24 hours a day. 2-3 weeks at most.
This type of exercise tells me, that they are ensuring both teams (working 12-hour shifts, Team A and B) are fully experienced for daytime ops and night time, running various scenarios based on some contractor who's doing the scripting.
BTW, my claim that a contractor may be involved behind the scenes is not conjecture: I have seen contractors (no, I won't mention names) brief folks on what they scripted for that night's shift or day.
I also believe this is all in preparation for next year's general election. I find all this to be very troublesome: the dots have been slowly showing up, but I don't see anyone making the connection between them & drawing logical conclusions. Perhaps that should be my next post?
Oh, yes, you are very sweet. :)
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