Galt's Gulch

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    Posted by JoleneMartens1982 9 years ago
    I really feel stupid saying this, but before Obama became president, I penciled in Hilary on my ballot. Since I have been home and was introduced to Ayn Rand's philosophy, and started to pay a lot more attention to news and politics, I am appalled by her. As a person, as a politician, and most definitely as a leader. She reminds me of Lillian Rearden. I am deeply concerned about the state of our country should she be elected. That may be a shove towards the real Gulch.
    This may be the only time that the heavy chauvinism still very heavy in politics and big money may be in our favor. I would love to see a woman president, but she is no woman, she's the Antichrist.
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    • Posted by term2 9 years ago
      I hope this "we need a historic president who will embrace change" stuff doesnt gain traction this election. "historic" and "change" dont refer at all to quality, just a difference from the past to now. Look at what we got with Obama's "change". If the only qualification for president was "black skin" or "womanhood", both of these candidates would shine. But we need a president who will represent us to the world, and take care of our country here. We havent gotten that in a while. They just get into wars and spend money and make us look weak and stupid.
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      • Posted by Technocracy 9 years ago
        To the left however that is all that is needed to qualify a candidate. And any candidate they run with either of the "Preferred Liberal" qualities is automatically given a solid 40% of the vote.

        All they need to win, is delude another 11% into buying their narrative long enough to vote for them.
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        • Posted by term2 9 years ago
          Emotionally I would rather the socialists take over and run the country into the ground FAST, so that it can rebuild the right way. But I look at Venezuela and see that it takes a LONG time to actually get to the collapsing stage, and living in that hell isnt good either. Its kind of a no win situation for us. Time to create a virtual gulch and hide in plain sight- freely trading with like minded people basically outside of the watchful eye of the government. In essence thats what Galt did in AS.
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    • Posted by gaiagal 9 years ago
      Don't worry about feeling stupid, you're just experiencing one of the side effects of late onset enlightenment. It will pass and be replaced by a sense of relief.

      Been there myself. Temporarily feeling stupid is a small price to pay. I've never regretted it. I found feeling temporarily stupid was much better than choosing to actually be stupid, which is what I would have been had I continued along my former path.

      I'm happy you discovered Objectivism!
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    • Posted by MinorLiberator 9 years ago
      I agree with wise Mama: Don't feel stupid...feel proud that you were bright enough and open minded enough to discover the truth. Not to mention honest enough to admit you voted or wrote in Hillary.

      I was too young to vote in 1968, but it was pre-Rand/Atlas for me and I came from a union/Democrat family in an industrial city. I probably would have voted for Humphrey.

      I did go to see McGovern speak that year (when he was still a possible long-shot candidate) but was conscious enough to find him a crashing bore with nothing inspiring to say.

      Post-Atlas, in 1972, I voted for Nixon...and I don't regret it. He was no great man to say the least, but Thomas Jefferson compared to Hillary or Obama...or McGovern...
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      • Posted by khalling 9 years ago
        I sent McGovern a dollar (I was in 5th grade). I got letters from the DNC for years-even after I was married-they always found my address. I sent the dollar because I felt sorry for him. yes, I was once an altruist
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        • Posted by MinorLiberator 9 years ago
          Ah, memories. When I was in 5th grade, I had a photo of JFK on my desk during the election (although I never sent him a dollar ;-) ).

          I cheered when he won (stole) the election from Nixon. Knowing what I know now...think of all the wonderful things we may have missed out on if it had gone the other way: Vietnam, the War on Poverty, the well-intentioned but flawed Civil Rights Act...and let's not forget LBJ (much as I try)...
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    • Posted by woodlema 9 years ago
      Education is a wonderful thing. Knowledge is power, and when politicians work so hard to take out education and "tell you what your supposed to think" THAT is when they become all-powerful and the People weak.
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    • Posted by johnpe1 9 years ago
      you got it, Jolene;;; welcome to the real world! . the
      people here in the gulch will keep you company as
      you find out all sorts of things about our wild world!!! -- j

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  • Posted by wmiranda 9 years ago
    A few things about Hillary running for president.
    1. How can we tell if what she said in her announcement is actually TRUE?
    2. She is not eligible to fly in Air Force One because of weight limitations. Hillary has too much baggage.
    3. Hillary has been more over exposed than the Kardasians.
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    • Posted by MinorLiberator 9 years ago
      1. We can 100% tell it was NOT true. Her lips were moving.
      2. Love it.
      3. True, and a source of hope. I've read it several places, and mentioned it in other threads, but apparently a lot of young voters, a big swing group, including younger women, are very underwhelmed by Hillary, for various reasons. Not good at all for her if they don't show up, or worse, are open to new ideas and change and come out of their parent's basement or garage, where most of them are living, and vote for her opponent.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years ago
    Hillary is the reincarnation of Nixon, with modern day ways of hiding what she is doing. The latest pictures of her that the media is showing make me sick. The media is just trying to make her look good, and I am very tired of it. She is what she has always been- a self serving and lying politician we dont need as president
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    • Posted by $ blarman 9 years ago
      Clinton is way worse than Nixon. Nixon didn't destroy evidence - he just tried to suppress it from coming out. And Nixon didn't have a sympathetic press. If Clinton were a Republican, she never would have made it to Secretary of State for her involvement in Whitewater and everything else.
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    • Posted by H6163741 9 years ago
      Yes, if you multiply Nixon's wrongdoings by about 100! And, by Nixon standards our current prez should have been impeached his first year in office....
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      • Posted by term2 9 years ago
        Our current presidents only qualifications is that he is black. Unfortunately the office requires other things like a bit of humility, ability to present the US to foreign countries, and internal fiscal responsibility. What we got is arrogance, entitlement, idiocy when it comes to dealing with other countries, intense spying on our "friends" and our own citizens. Its pretty bad. THOSE are the things he should have been impeached for.
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        • Posted by freedomforall 9 years ago
          Don't forget we get race hatred and religious bias with this POTUS, too.
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          • Posted by term2 9 years ago
            I have to say that I hear much more negativity about black people since he was elected. I am not racist myself, but I am a culturist and I dont like certain cultures. The arrogant and entitled way the black culture has evolved is NOT something that I like to be around. In the west, this seems to be the norm. In the south, I dont notice that as much. Perhaps the black people appreciate just being treated like normal human beings instead of how it used to be 50 years ago. This president seems to me to favor islam, even when their own "bible" seems to want to kill the "infidels".
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  • Posted by smichael9 9 years ago
    Estimates that I've read indicate that Hillary will have a war chest of over $3 Billion for her campaign. That's enough for her to offer $15 for every voter in the US for their vote. (assuming approximately 200 million voters. I'm not suggesting that she would do that, but the amount of money that she has available for her campaign is staggering! I can't see how any of the GOP hopefuls can raise enough to compete on the basis of campaign funding. They will have to offer a clear vision of where they can take the country and how they can correct 7 years of disastrous leadership.

    The liberal left vision of our country and that depicted in "Atlas Shrugged" is so eerily prophetic that I'm amazed at Ayn's ability to see into the future. I regularly re-read sections of Ayn's book and feel like I'm reading today's headlines written 58 years ago.

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    • Posted by BeenThere 9 years ago
      ".. I'm amazed at Ayn's ability to see into the future."

      Philosophy determines mans course......AR understood (and explained) philosophy qua philosophy exquisitely.....that altruism was the then predominant philosophy and where it would lead if continued (it has) and offered Objectivism as the antidote (it is). She hoped that AS would prevent the consequences she portrayed........we are working on it......and that is what is important, whether we live to see it take hold significantly or not.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years ago
    this logo represents "down with equality" I suppose;;
    it's right for Hillary since she wants to have changes
    in the way the 1st amendment is applied to Rs versus
    Ds, and wants to have wealth, not just income, re-
    distribution, as well as unequal FCC rules, etc. -- j

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