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Trekkies vs TSA

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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 4 months ago
    Wonderful story. Hurrah for the author! The reason Whoopie Goldberg was featured (ie asked for a role) on TNG was that she had grown up watching Uhura and thinking, "Well - at least one of us made it into space."

    I do not care if someone says Trekkie or Trekker. It is one of the few non-dystopian universes where we go and explore and colonize space and experiment with different philosophies of governance. And meet aliens. Lots of aliens.

    I Want Warp Drive, and I want it NOW.


    Jan
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    • Posted by iroseland 9 years, 4 months ago
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      • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 4 months ago
        this is fascinating! . these folks are really working
        to predict warp drive! . and Hawking is on board.
        we need to find some other intelligent life forms
        and get our "comeuppance" soon!!! -- j

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        • Posted by barwick11 9 years, 4 months ago
          The problem with this, if I recall correctly, is that it takes a ridiculously large amount of power to warp space.
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          • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 4 months ago
            It does using current technology; part of what would help advance this is a way to generate the same effect in a different manner...

            After all, look at what a slice of germanium crystal did as compared to a vacuum tube...

            My feeling is this - once they back away from it and approach it from a totally new angle, the likelihood of it succeeding might be within grasp. Building on old tech is certainly one way - but imagine the power and size it would take for just the wireless keyboard I'm typing on - never mind the computer at my feet it's attached to - had semiconductors not been discovered...

            The answer is out there - we just have to look for it, right in front of our faces - disguised as something else...
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          • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 4 months ago
            Darn! I have tried 3 times, and I cannot open the link. I do know that NASA's Dr White made some mods to Alcubierre's original equations. Alcubierre's original work required a negative mass the size of Jupiter to power the ship. White's modifications reduced that requirement to a negative mass the size of a VW bug.

            Of course, we do not have _any_ negative mass yet, but NASA is working with magnetic fields to try to produce enough to get a photon to bypass space.

            If you can give me another clue on how to get to that article, I would appreciate it.

            Jan
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    • Posted by barwick11 9 years, 4 months ago
      Let's get fusion first, and then possibly some other method of generating large amounts of power, and then we can worry about moving at near-c speeds
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      • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 4 months ago
        We can work in parallel on both processes. We are further along in energy generation than we are in post-c transportation. I do not think that even our own solar system can be explored, way way sub-light, without nuclear drives.

        I have great hope for Thorium LS reactors.

        Jan
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 9 years, 4 months ago
    A friend of mine met her last month in the airline's lounge, and was sitting next to her on the flight. He said she was so interesting to talk to, and a lovely woman.
    I'm glad this man spoke up as he did! Good for him and any others out there who have done the same! We are not chattel to be treated as such, and to be thought of as having to obey the dictator-esque, drunk-on-their-own-power minions is insulting in the extreme.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 4 months ago
    Hooray for a Trekker standing up for one of the most endearing, beautiful woman in the world. As far as I'm concerned she is way above TSA agent pay grade.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 9 years, 4 months ago
    I just wonder how it went for him with his security check.

    I have argued with a TSA guy at one point about something in my luggage. But I was careful to keep it light and laugh a bit like I was joking. I got away with it.
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    • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 4 months ago
      I always do this with TSA people... same with cops. You approach them as an adversary, they will assume the adversarial role. You approach them as humans doing a shit job, and they tend to lighten up. Not always - there are some stupid @sses that take those jobs as a power trip - but in general, yeah, they're there trying to make a buck to buy groceries, pay bills, etc.

      I can't think of a more boring, mindless job... stand there for 8-12 hours a day, doing the same thing over and over and over and over... it would be like working an assembly line with parts going by that are full of attitude, some pretty defective, everyone knowing it's all a dog and pony show.
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      • Posted by xthinker88 9 years, 4 months ago
        In my case it was kind of funny. They wanted to open my bag. They found my tin of shoe polish. The guy said, this is a liquid/gel. I laughed and said, nah, it's a solid. He said we categorize it as a liquid/gel. I said, well i have a masters degree that involved a bit of chemistry, i'm pretty sure that's a solid. he said, if it's a solid then how do you get it on your shoes? I laughed again and said, the same way people put solid deodorant under their arms. He also pointed out that my ziplock bag was bigger than quart size. I said but it's ziplock, and everything in it would fit in a quart size and you can see into it or even open it. He said but it has to be a quart size. I looked at him and looked at the shoe polish. I said, hmm well isn't my toiletry case in my bag about quart size? He said yes. I said and it is clear plastic and zips right? He said yes. So I said how about i keep my gel shoe polish in there and put the rest of my toiletries in there too and we call that a quart size ziplock? He said ok and let me go through. lol
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        • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 4 months ago
          At least he didn't try to claim you were smuggling Kiwis on the airplane...

          I've told my story about my cool SOG folding knife (had it for years, took it everywhere, lived in my pocket or purse) that got lost in the liner of my carry-on, and the (OK, cute, I admit it) Militia security cop at the outbound security checkpoint at Domodedovo (who saw it on the x-ray)... You would think, being different cultures and different languages and definitely different upbringings it could have ended pretty badly... the worst part was I didn't realize it was there until he had run the empty bag (while I watched the screen) and he pointed it out... I opened up the lining of the bag (I could have sworn it was in my big red roller check-in)... It took him about a millisecond to realize it was a f*up on my part, but not intentional.

          Had that happened *here*, with the wrong TSA person having a bad day... or worse, in the days before TSA...

          OK, 'splanation - the ONLY time I've ever had a really bad experience at an airport security line was before there was a TSA and the private security agents running the thing almost got me arrested over a pair of hemostats. They had called the (armed) police over and had their hands on their firearms as this woman told me these 3/4" stats were a deadly weapon... while the cop gave me the "try something, perp" look. So, IMO, as bad as some TSA peeps are, they are leagues above what we used to have. Maybe I just got really unlucky with all the pre-TSA security goons, but I've had less issues and bulls#!t (pardon me) with the feds than with the privateers...
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    • Posted by eilinel 9 years, 4 months ago
      I really, REALLY hate the body scanners. Twice, I got in one, put my hands up, and gave a double single-digit salute. First time, nothing, and I assured the agent it wasn't personal. Second time I got yanked out of there, subjected to a complete patdown, and told sternly never to do that again.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 4 months ago
    Loved this story.
    I'm only glad that the guy speaking up wasn't forced to strip down and miss his flight. Maybe more of us should speak up even if we have to pay a price.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 9 years, 4 months ago
    TSA: Thousands Standing Around. I've witnessed others as well as had my own bad experiences with those creepy tin star petty bureaucrats. Made me miss a flight once and I'll never forget it.

    Uhura 81. Gosh time flies. Loved her in the '60s, still do now. I just completed ripping my DVDs of the original series into my online library so I can watch them on Apple TV without having to change out the disks.
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  • Posted by DaveM49 9 years, 4 months ago
    Someone has found a way to "reason" with the TSA: "Do you have ANY idea who she is?"

    I strongly suspect the TSA creep did not.

    Has it occurred to anyone that TSA protocol has created large, fixed crowds of people AHEAD OF any security screening which would be perfect targets for some bug-eyed terrorist? You can bet that it has to some bug-eyed terrorist.
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    • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 9 years, 4 months ago
      It occurs to me every time I fly. I'm just a disarmed sitting duck.
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      • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 4 months ago
        No joke... Its part of why I get to the airport way early when I fly, and try to pick a time thru the sheep pens when there's a lull. Nothing like standing in a huge group waiting for Achmed to become an even more dead terrorist...
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        • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago
          Its a far cry from Hertz' "running through the airport" days. I recall several times being stuck in important meetings until the last possible minute, stopping at the check-in counter to ask them to notify the gate, then running the length of the concourse carrying a 25 lb briefcase, a 30 lb 'transportable' computer, and a 25 lb hanging bag of clothes. They always held the flight for someone. More often than not it wasn't me, but complaints were rare because we all had had that experience. Airlines built it into the schedule and business was done. Passengers were important regardless of where they were seated.
          The TSA exists to train us not to resist, to be compliant, to "follow orders" regardless of how stupid they are. "Achmed" is an excuse created out of false flag attacks.
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          • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 4 months ago
            Hell, I remember the "suit bags" and using them as one of my (originally) 3 carry-ons (not counting my purse, of course) - every plane had at least a couple "alcoves" to hang them - I remember going on multi-leg flights, and not checking anything in... because you didn't need to.

            I also remember getting a bag with rollers on it - talk about conveniences! I still have the "leash" for it somewhere around... even tho the bag (long gone) would never fit in cabin storage nowadays.

            And people wonder why I block out extra days and take the train... Ahhh, Pan Am, and an upgrade bump to Clipper class... how we miss ye...
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