Why can't you accept the facts? Intragovernmental loans come from previous revenue-- trust funds running a surplus. There's been no borrowing from outside the government, unlike the other Treasury instruments that make up the real debt.

You people are so disappointing. I noticed when I worked to support the Ron Paul campaign in 2008 that most of the people around me were 9/11 Truthers-- ironically, of course, people utterly resistant to truth in any form because fantasies of vast conspiracies were so much more comforting to them.

This was a total reversal from Dr. Paul's campaign in 1988, which I also worked for, having the privilege of spending a day with Dr. Paul and hosting Andre Marrou at my home. By and large, their supporters were the very best of the Libertarian Party, the nut jobs having been mostly distracted by Russell Means. But now the LP, like much of the Objectivist movement, has become an asylum run by the inmates. No wonder Dr. Paul went back to the Republican Party-- people like you drove him back there.

There's a similar but even greater irony here, which is that a forum named after Galt's Gulch is dominated by people like you who have no interest in facts, only a fanatical devotion to their own comforting fantasies. Do you remember what John Galt said about Galt's Gulch?

"Nobody stays here by faking reality in any manner whatever.”

You don't belong here. This place should belong to those who accept the facts, think rationally, and speak the truth. People like me.

Get the hell out of our way.