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Welfare Payout Statistics That Will Make You Really Mad

Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 5 months ago to Economics
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Go to the article to see a chart of how your state compares.

"A Cato Institute study has determined that welfare benefits in fact payout more than a full time minimum wage job in at least 35 states! WTF?

1. The free money is more than $15 an hour in over ten states
2. Welfare is more than a newly college educated teacher in eleven states makes
3. Outdoes the salary of a computer programmer in three states!
4. The highest welfare payouts are over $20 an hour! (Hawaii, with payments equaling $29.13 per hour, DC at $24.43 per hour, Massachusetts at $24.30 , Connecticut at $21.33, New York at $21.01 per hour, New Jersey at $20.89 per hour, Rhode Island at $20.83 per hour and Vermont at $20.36 per hour)


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    Posted by Genez 9 years, 5 months ago
    Hence the radio call in show where the woman says "why should I work? you guys are the suckers..."... We need to realize though, that there are 2 forces at work here. One is the stolen money that the government hands out like candy. The other is much harder to identify and even harder than that to stop. That is the lack of self respect and ambition that allows people to live on whatever they can have given to them. While out of work, I have taken my unemployment benefits like anyone might. However, I spent part of every day working on making contacts, sending resumes, etc to find work again. The other part of the day I spent checking on odd jobs, temp work, etc to make money to get by. At no time did I sit back and figure out how to sit and do nothing and continue to live 'on the dole'.

    What is the origin of this lack of effort or self respect? I think it is the vast mis characterization of "rights" and what they include. Todays younger generations seem to think they have a "right" to a home, cell phone, car and satellite TV. I would submit that none of these is a "right" and none are included in the definition of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" as is so often espoused. Until we turn that thinking around, this problem will persist and will continue to grow.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 5 months ago
      The difficulty I see is 'that thinking' is never going to be turned around. That mindset is inherent in a certain portion of the population and always has been. In many cultures it's been allowed to die out through natural selection, until the culture finds or learns how to produce more than is needed for day to day survival, but it eventually returns and begins to reassert it's influence. Just as there is a certain portion of the population that wishes to rule, and discover that the dependent will support them as long as they are promised their 'fair share' of the wealth of the culture. Both actually fear independence and individual freedom, deep down in their psyches and hate with passion, those they see producing and thinking for themselves.

      We are in a continual battle for our natural individual rights and must recognize that it is a battle that can't be won--only stalemated until the next attack, and there will always come the next attack. Until we realize and fully understand that the jackals and scavengers of the population must be beat back at every opportunity and slightest hint of encroachment, our dreams of individual freedom with all/any of our natural rights will always remain out of our reach.

      We must accept that this is much more than an intellectual battle for a way of thinking that we're involved in, that it's a life or death, teeth bared, and bloody war with no end in sight. And it's our neighbors, our friends, and our very own families that are the enemy. It's our genetic luck of the draw that we battle against.
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      • Posted by DeadRight 9 years, 5 months ago
        During the Great Depression billboards were aimed at shaming sloth, as if one should get off their but and work even if there were no paying jobs.
        Under Jimmy Carter those without did not eat and caused a desire for national prosperity.
        Under the 0dious 0ne, people do not work but they eat. This is all being done on future borrowed money. Liberals think they have defied the basic laws of supply and demand. They have not. They have merely made the future depressions hundred times worse.
        It will not be objectivists, conservatives and libertarians with torches and pitchforks at the White House but the poor starving indigent, when the checks stop coming.
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    • Posted by JanelleFila 9 years, 5 months ago
      "Lack of self respect and ambition..."
      Totally agree. Receiving assistance used to be embarrassing. Now it is almost a right. One of the girls in my stepbrother's high school class said that after graduation she would be "third generation welfare." That was her life's ambition! So sad and also so frustrating!
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 5 months ago
    Actually, those numbers are quite a bit misleading...
    Here's a list for Virginia, per month, that I compiled from talking to a social worker: (the $/items represent a total "benefit," not necessarily a cash payment, but this is what it would have cost an employed person)
    For a sow with 3 offspring (and an absent father)
    Apartment: $1400
    Utilities: $400
    Food: $400
    WIC: $100
    Medical: $500
    Cable TV: $30
    Cell phone: $30
    Home phone: $25
    Car repairs: $50
    Entertainment (movie and sports tickets): $75
    Clothes: $100
    Child care: $1,500
    Additional payment for children: $500
    Plus free school lunches, free Head Start, free college tuition.
    That's over $5,000 per month, tax free. Equivalent job to net $60K/yr (30% tax) would be $78K / yr. Who the hell would want to work and give up that?
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    • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 5 months ago
      Exactly. And for a married couple trying to do the right thing, all of that goes away. It is only their own internal morality/ethics/pride that sustains them to bear such an insurmountable system. And our politicians/secular organizations have spent 50plus years trying to eliminate that.
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 5 months ago
    First let me state I am a Christian, and do NOT believe in Evolution. Having said that here is my big problem with these liberal "Libtards" and their theories.
    They do NOT believe in God and they DO believe in evolution. Within those two constructs there is NO place at all for welfare at all. there is no compassion in Nature. The strong survive the weak die. End of storey.
    Every liberal hand out and freebie is a contradiction in their own fundamental beliefs when it comes to religion and life itself. If they, the liberals, were even half-way consistent they would stop all the handouts and tell people Work or Die. Become productive and support yourself or die by your own laziness.
    The pigs will soon far outnumber the ability of the productive to feed them, then guess what, ALL Will die. What do these jokers NOT understand about life. Oh that is right they understand NOTHING!
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    • Posted by comsguy 9 years, 5 months ago
      I think you are all correct but I cannot imagine that even evolution is not by God's design. It is difficult to believe that our world is all one big coincedence after another. To believe in God and creation is just as valid as the mysticism behind the science we cannot be certain of. Evolution, Dark Matter are just 2 examples of science making the case for God in my opinion. Socialist attempts to force everyone to believe it their way always backfires on them. Yes they preach survival of the fittest and then turn around and say we cannot let the unfit live or die by their own consequence. We must take care of the least among us through no fault of their own. Weeding out the ones that are just flat out lazy is the difficult part.
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    • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 5 months ago
      This really has nothing to do with religion, but on the point you're raising about socialists' hypocrisy - that is correct, because all of socialism is based on lies. But remember, according to Marx, socialism is a temporary stage, to be replaced by social perfection - communism, where to each according to their needs and from each according to their ability. Translated: if you don't work - you don' t eat. Unless you're more equal than others, of course...
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  • Posted by mccwho 9 years, 5 months ago
    In Ukraine the unemployed are required to do community service in order to receive benefits. They pick up trash clean the parks, all sorts of jobs.
    Why are the politicians opposed to this???
    Because the megalomaniac lunatics are running this country, ie politicians.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 5 months ago
    The relatively dinky $11.21 an hour in Alabama has me steamed.
    Right now I'm fully retired from that state's Department Of Corrections but I've off-and-on worked for four different security guard companies and for one of them twice.
    I've worked on all kinds of posts for all kinds of pay, including minimum wage. Pay depends on how much a client wants to pay a company for security and you are sometimes bounced from post to post. .
    I was only paid more than $11.21 twice. Wackenhut paid me $11.50 an hour to work at a Mercedes plant but during the holiday season I was ordered to work for $10.50 an hour at a Tuscaloosa bank. That kinda frosted me, pun intended, since Wackenhut wants bank guards to stand outside like scarecrows.
    I heard about a $12.50 an hour Guardsmark job closer to home at a Wachovia data center and worked there for a year until the company lost the contract. Then I returned to full retirement.
    Oh, yeah, my memory is now jogged about an occurrence with my career job when I was trained for it at the Selma Corrections Academy.back in 1982.
    I heard that some of our black trainees meant to deliberately fail the final exam to get on welfare as for being "fired" from their last job. Sure enough, eight-to-ten black guys were weeded out and stared back at the formation I stood in. They were told to hit the highway before the graduation ceremony commenced.
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    • Posted by $ Commander 9 years, 5 months ago
      I remember the early 80's in Opelika. Developing acreage for peecans (spelled for correct pronunciation). Uniroyal was laying off 2 to 3 thousand per week for a stint. Farm thing fell apart, friends provided a roof and a lead to work....washing dishes at the Western Sizzlin...$3.50 an hour. I had no safety net except the good relations I had developed. I don't feel sorry anyone who deliberately fails....PITY...the greatest disgrace.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 5 months ago
        One of my brothers married an Opelika girl in the late 70s. They live in Tennessee and one of their three daughters is married.
        Thought I had a career for 7 years during the 70s up until 1980 when I got sacked in Mississippi. Being sacked made finding the same career job impossible with colleges cranking out more journalism and communications degrees than there were jobs for. Everybody wanted to be a reporter after Watergate.
        I went through some temporary crap work jobs until I saw a DOC needs you ad in The Dothan Eagle. New prisons were being built. Went to the academy March of '82.
        At first the job was a safe harbor in a storm until I found out what good benefits it had along with the retirement I'm enjoying now.
        During the 80s I broke up more inmate fights than I could possibly count. During the 90s I was mostly on the back gate tower, and that was a tricky place.
        I almost got killed by once. ( I think God was looking after me).
        I also stopped two attempted escapes by popping as many rounds into the air, one during the 80s and one during the 90s.
        I have the two attaboy letters framed and hanging on a wall to prove it.
        I don't want to see that prison ever again.
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  • Posted by samrigel 9 years, 5 months ago
    In a sense, this is caused by parents who continually espouse "I want my kids to have a better life than I had" So they allow the entitlement thinking to ferment in the minds of their children. This is accomplished by allowing them to continue to live in their parents home rent free, free car with no insurance payments, free satellite TV (or cable) free from having a phone bill or cell phone bill. The parents pay for college when college may not be the best course. When free stuff flows from the home you were raised in then everything else should be free as well.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 5 months ago
      "this is caused by parents who continually espouse "I want my kids to have a better life than I had" "
      Yes. As you say, giving kids free rent/transportation/etc indefinitely will *not* give them a better life.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 5 months ago
    With bennies like that, it is no wonder so many people have stopped working.

    The problem lies in the mindset of two groups of people: those who believe they do not have to work to provide for themselves, and those who believe they should tax others to support those who refuse to work for themselves in order to gain power.
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  • Posted by XenokRoy 9 years, 5 months ago
    I was unemployed for a bit over a year. I lived off savings refusing to take even unemployment from the federal thieves.

    If we pay anything from the feds to charity its to much. That is what charities exist for, not government.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 5 months ago
    Egads!
    I'm moving to Hawaii. As a retiree, I thought I was doing pretty well because I didn't have to rely on social security, and had most everything all paid for (unless the 9 year old car breaks down). But, hell, going on welfare in Hawaii is doing better than me. Then reality struck me upside the head. Living in Florida is relatively cheap compared to most states, and I have a sub tropical climate, and grandkids here. So I guess Hawaii doesn't look all that good with it's high cost of living. Nevertheless, I'm still gagging on those statistics. When did they stop making Bromo-Seltzer?
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 5 months ago
    That doesn't take into account all means tested programs. I've heard it stated in Wisconsin, that a mother with 4 children will receive over $40,000 in benefits per year. From welfare, to section 8 housing, to an O'phone, free healthcare, etc. Like that 30 yr old woman, these leeches on society have no shame on their being a burden on their fellow American, nor do they have any moral compunction about their behavior. It is so engrained in them that there have been several instances where a "welfare mother" hit the lottery (why they have the money to spend on the lottery in the first place is an interesting question), and continue to receive their welfare benefits, even with huge payouts.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 5 months ago
    Republicans sure are good at making poor people angry. What's worse than "I can't make any money, gee I'm mad at other poor people supposedly getting a free ride." is all the things people _could_ have been if they hadn't had a free ride. The free ride keeps them from getting that high (or low) from working their tail off and not being sure if their customers will find any value in what their doing.

    Maybe it works to sell it as envying your neighbors. That works for any political ideology. But there's a truth that transcends ideology about the feeling of helping someone and making them eager to give you stuff for the stuff you give them.
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    • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 5 months ago
      Actually, what makes the radically self entitled angry is being shown the truth, having their noses rubbed in it. I remember being "poor", and I was a registered either GOP or Lib at the time - because they had the answer to get me out of the hole and up by my own bootstraps.

      Once I became successful, I toyed with the dark side - and it was when my conscience demanded I look at myself in the mirror, I found what I hated - was never those who spoke truth, but those who sold the lie of "social welfare" and "brother love" for their own gain. I hated myself for being just that evil. And it brought me back to being human.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 5 months ago
        "they had the answer to get me out of the hole and up by my own bootstraps. "
        Yes. I strongly agree with bootstrapping, but I don't think politicians are models of how to do this.

        This is what I mean by "helping someone and making them eager to give you stuff for the stuff you give them." I'm not talking about politicians, alms, or helping people under coercion. I'm talking about figuring out something you can do that someone would love to pay for.
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    • Posted by mccwho 9 years, 5 months ago
      Being forced to pay welfare is like being forced to live your life for another.
      Remember the oath to get into the Gulch????
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 5 months ago
        There are two parts to this.
        1) We need to take back the language of serving one another. You can serve under coercions or in a free trade, guns or money. If the context is making customers eager to pay your for work, that's not coercion. Really successful people, IMHO, approach work with an attitude of service, i.e. they charge a high price but provide amazing service.
        2) I don't think all "Welfare" is like being force to live your life for another. If solving a public menace by punishing people with tax dollars is acceptable, I say solving a public menace by helping people with tax dollar is acceptable, if it works. This is a dangerous road b/c it can easily degenerate into people looking to the gov't to take care of them or people moralizing about how "good people put others before themselves". It's very simplistic, though, to say we can use tax dollars to solve problems as long as it doesn't in some way involve helping someone. At best that's being paranoid about well-meaning efforts degenerating; at worst it's just mean-spirtedness.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 5 months ago
    YOU FORGOT TO ADD TO THE LIST THE MONIES GIVEN TO 0, AND EVERY CONGRESSMAN, AND ALL OF THEIR AIDS AND WHO KNOWS WHO ELSE LIVES IN .DC. OR ELSE WHERE IN THE COUNTRY THAT WE THE TAXPAYER SUPPORT.
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