I'm A Diehard Liberal And It's Ruining My Parenting!
someone needs to put mom in the corner until she "gets" it. wtf
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The right wing doesn't want regulation so they can dig deeper into he pockets of Americans.
Parking...???? Really? Parking in front of a fire hydrant offers a danger to others.
As the folks who invested in Enron about managing their retirement.
Ah yes, Romney care.. ROFL Do you realize that America is the only industrialized country that doesn't have real universal health care?
part of health care;;; hell, it can't even handle the
post office right. -- j
The great majority of the so called right wing disapprove of chemical companies dumping bad stuff in the rivers, but the government program to halt that behavior (EPA) has expanded to where it is slapping small farmers and land owners around to justify its existence. Same for the FDA. Formed to prevent meat packers from unloading bad product on the public, but now slaps grandma around for not getting FDA approval to offer her apple pie at the church social. Regulation and regulators have gone too far. Left wingers fail to understand the distinction.
The Enron poke at the free market is a joke. In our free market society portfolio diversification should be taught in high school, but isn't. I'm sure high school grads nowadays can spew the Marxist share the wealth doctrine even if they don't know it's Marxist, but are clueless as to how to handle themselves in a free market investment system. Most retirement funds (trillions of dollars worth) weren't affected by the Enron failure or the Madoff fraud for that matter, but that little fact just doesn't make it into the consciousness of the leftist media.
"Universal Health Care" is pie in the sky utopian BS right from the get go. It could consume the entire GDP of the planet and still not provide for everyone in every way. In the end bureaucrats decide who gets care at what level and who doesn't.
That had plenty of time to work before Obamacare and it failed. Prices continued to rise and care got worse for a lot of people.
How does 'not want regulations' equate with right wingers 'diging deeper' into the pockets of Americans? It is the liberals who are stealing the money I have earned to provide for people who do not want to bother to work, for an increase in anti-business regulation, for underwriting police-SWATTing of vocal conservatives.
Most of those other countries are socialist too. I do not have to approve of their politics nor of their social systems...but I certainly do not want to imitate them!
Jan
You are certainly correct about then, but NOW it is part of the "Southern Strategy" first made popular by Nixon and since it's the party blueprint.
Several wedge issues, among them abortion and gun control, and lately added reproductive issues in general, have been a part of it.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_st...
And as for Enron... the employees who put all of their retirement equity into their own company's stock probably learned Economics and Investing at a government-run public school, too.... All of your eggs in one basket is usually the most stupid investing choice anyone can make. My financial manager, who makes ALL of the investing decisions for my IRA and my wife's IRA, chose five dozen or more various equities for our money, so if any one of them went to zero overnight, we'd lose maybe 2-3% of our total balance.
The Enron employees were scammed by their own management and sealed their own doom with their own financial ineptitude...
Which is why that mom is really screwing up her twins by teaching them stupid ideas... like 'life is fair' and 'someone will make sure you get an equitable share.'
But that's the American Way Today.
Actually it was putting two wars on a credit card and cutting taxes on the 1% that drained our economy, NOT the Dems tossing money at problems.
And a 6-year-old needs to be treated like a 6-year-old.
But adults DO need to know how to make decisions for themselves.
better yet, make the cookies and start taking them away from the cookie sheet: this much for taxes, this much for cookies in your retirement years...
It really isn't fair though. If life were fair good people wouldn't get sick or have accidents. Taco Bell and Xanax would be good for you.
Eco 101, Bob? C'mon. Unintended consequences, man!
Every home is different. In ours, bargaining and negotiating were part of the conversation. On the other hand, no argument was ever about candy because there wasn't any. She had to go outside the home to get it.
We pretty much let our daughter do whatever she wanted as long as it was not unsafe. We even had a cartoon from the _New Yorker_ on the fridge, "NO, you cannot camp out overnight in Central Park."
Kids need to know where they stand.
Calvin: I'm going to fantastically rich. But it won't change me.
Dad: Too bad. That was our last hope.
Calvin: You're going to be lonely in that nursing home.
Dad: Good, then maybe I can finish reading this book.
We went skating all over the Michigan State campus and ate chili cheese dogs afterward. That and crossing the Red Cedar at the falls were something of a short tradition for a few years. Enjoy them while you can, they grow up so fast...
Must I explain?
"letting your daughter do whatever she wants AS LONG AS IT WAS [SAFE]" is clearly putting a restriction on her "make[ing] her own decisions."
Clearer? Your judgment of 'what's safe for her in terms of her 'own' decisions' IS, in my agreement, 'good parenting,' but it's really not giving her free rein (or reign) to 'make her own decisions.' It's a limit on 'freedom,' which is not 'freedom.'
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“Mom,” my daughter said, “people without money need help, and people with money need to help them.”
“Yes, that’s right,” I said.
“Well, I don’t have money, and you do, so you need to help me and buy this.”
A perfectly well-reasoned, thought-out argument.
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In what world is that a "perfectly well-reasoned, thought-out argument"? Oh in the world of no self responsibility.
Very sad.
My point is less about the actual value of the candy but the thought process of "need/want something --> do work to get it."
It doesn't make them feel okay about losing something, but feeling the loss of accidentally losing or breaking something is part of life.
and when I read that his woman actually entertained suggestions about how the kid who lost her candy could get more, I wanted to barf.
grrrrr.
Idiots.
What I hate are the ones who do give a choice they would never live with: "Get in your room or I'm going to kill you!." gives me shivers
I've learned do not give them a choice unless they really have a choice. Choices can be powerful, giving them a the feeling of having some say in their world w/o being overwhelming. OTOH it's bad if I say "would you like to eat lunch now" if the only acceptable answer is yes.
Used to be... Kid acts too big for his britches, the parent would dust them off, and child would learn an object lesson - you break the rules, there will be consequences. Now that's felony child abuse. You want to pay 5 grand in fines, go to jail, then to get your kids back from the moocher playing foster home, go to another 5 grand worth of mandated parenting classes, to adapt to doing what your child tells you they're going to do? And the kid learns the object lesson - I can always get everything my way, and if not I'll call someone and snitch you off, and you'll go to jail!
I don't think it's fair to a kid to be required to follow every adult directive instantly. If you wanted him in the house at 1:15, you would have told him, and then said "It's 1.15, time to come in!"
No compliance? I actually think that's easy. Another choice: "Henrietta, you can come eat your lunch now or wait until your late afternoon snack. Which would you like?" and then DON'T CAVE.
I really think, after a kid is about 4, maybe 5, kids don't have to be hit unless the adult is being unreasonable. No talking about 16-year-olds, they aren't always human.
An end of my story? I was out shopping with my sister and stepmother, who said "Girls, look! This fishing pole is so big, I could hit you with it from here!" In the silence I summoned up that cold and dangerous tone of voice and said " You could try." No more "cute" comments!
You can give your kid choices and try not caving, or you can be the parent who is never questioned or embarrassed in public. Kids don’t test adults who always lead. Teach them about choices later.
I don’t believe in spanking. It just shows the adult was never in control.
Times and places where even mild abuse is tolerated are completely outside my experience. It's not even on my radar. The nearest place with people being rough and calling the cops on one another on a regular basis is only three miles south of me, but it never comes up in my life.
if one does not know the difference between what constitutes abuse and what constitutes correction, then society is, indeed, doomed to become one where people are raised by the government to hate and abuse their parents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NDkVx9Az...
Shame on her.
So much of this is like how we train (or fail to train) our horses. Working with horses certainly helps people learn how to deal with children. It did for me, anyway. That lady needed to own a pony when she was, herself, six years old.
I agree. I think child-rearing is like horse training. One, you can never stop training and sometimes you have to un-train bad behavior. Second, you can prevent dangerous situations and earn respect by accepting you are in charge: be the Alpha. Finally, neither horses or children are ‘pets’.
The more I learn the more I feel bad about how Mrs. Romney was treated for her dressage pursuits. It is an expensive habit, but for many like me, I willing to muck stables and take care of the horses on the weekends in-trade for the lessons. Owning a horse or working with horses involves a lot of manual hard labor. You have to roll up your sleeves. I don’t believe Mrs. Romney just jumped on the back of a horse and let others do all the work. It just doesn’t work like that. You have to build that bond.
Does that libtard think she's having problems now?
Nice article. +1
I have to admit that my kids, all three of them were always perfect when we went out. People would stop by our table in a restaurant and tell us how well behaved our children were. Once in while I'd just say, "We spank them a lot".
Seriously:
Each of us is born with an opportunity to make the most of our lives. Some do and some squander that opportunity along with any progress they do make. That is life. Learn to live with it. Teach your children well.
JFK Democrat (Not a socialist bone in my body) but the desire to somehow find "fairness" has usurped "justice" in so many parts of our lives.
Saw way too much fairness in public school teaching as a teacher.
Jan
In order to teach them about becoming civilized humans you begin by teaching them inner boundaries...right/wrong, good/bad, food/poison, etc. .
This woman has made the mistake of teaching her children "outer boundaries" so that they will never understand the basis of limits and that other people aren't the means to their ends.
She is raising spoiled rotten brats and she needs to set firm limits on her own parenting behavior.
Mommy, I got arrested because my boyfriend was making meth in the garage of the house you gave to me a few years ago for my 25th birthday, and I need 750,000 for bail, plus they're going to confiscate the house and burn it down, so I need you to buy me another one (and it would be better if it were bigger so more of my friends can live with me), and give me bail money and another 250,000 to hire a lawyer to beat this charge... because I don't deserve it and everyone is unfair to me. And if you don't, I'll hate you!
I have SEEN this ploy... and I've seen parents fall for it.
Taking from a responsible one to give to an irresponsible one is wrong and in her relativistic world "unfair" by proportionality.
If the article were the beginning of dirty story along that line rather than a Washington Post article, people would say the obligatory why-she's-a-spoiled-brat backstory (i.e. this article) was formulaic and over-the-top.... I mean, at least so I've heard anyway.
herself. -- j
is a liberal nightmare. -- j
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteveryt...
"We didn’t deserve to be poor, any more than we deserved to be rich."... wtf?
But it's _scary_ going the WIC office, she says. Everyone looked at the tall blond "girl" (as if she weren't over 18) who just drove her Mercedes over a pothole for the first time.
"But it wasn’t a toy — it was paid off. Were we supposed to trade it in for a crappier car we’d have to make payments on?"
No. You sell the 5 y/o Mercedes for $15,000 and use the money to buy a $3,000 car. and $12,000 worth of groceries, utilities, and rent..
I bet the husband paying who's paying for her lifestyle with the help of "President Obama's programs" (just quoting her words) is an engineer.
It's only "conservative politicians and Internet trolls" who criticize her, she says. She kept her Mercedes. Cry me a river!
I suspect the author says bizarre things to get attention.
She's in Gainesville too. I lived in Gainesville in the mid 90s and loved it. It felt like home in so many ways: county seat, air port on the east side, east side a little rougher, big university blocks west of the downtown square.
And the parents *do* call the shots when they're little kids. When they're teenagers they'll want to call their own shots, and I'm trying now to give them the tools to go make their own decisions and money, do things I think are stupid, and move their little corner of humankind forward.
This article is like the caricatures of liberalism that rightwingers have. The caricature says that veiled authority must force us to share or overt authority must lord it over us. These aren't the only choices. Another world is possible.
May I say that the original story sounds to me contrived and fake. At first I suspected just a poor writer (and thus a poor thinker). More careful reading convinced me that the piece is fictional and not a description of a real life experience. What do you think?
I probably said it here before, but cannot resist repeating: parenting, teaching students and managing people are the three most important (and closely related) human activities. Would you agree?
All the best to you.