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Battery breakthrough from NTU Singapore

Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 5 months ago to Technology
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"With our nanotechnology, electric cars would be able to increase their range dramatically with just five minutes of charging, which is on par with the time needed to pump petrol for current cars," added Prof Chen.

"Equally important, we can now drastically cut down the waste generated by disposed batteries, since our batteries last ten times longer than the current generation of lithium-ion batteries."

The long-life of the new battery also means drivers save on the cost of a battery replacement, which could cost over USD$5,000 each.

Easy to manufacture

According to Frost & Sullivan, a leading growth-consulting firm, the global market of rechargeable lithium-ion batteries is projected to be worth US$23.4 billion in 2016.

Lithium-ion batteries usually use additives to bind the electrodes to the anode, which affects the speed in which electrons and ions can transfer in and out of the batteries.

However, Prof Chen's new cross-linked titanium dioxide nanotube-based electrodes eliminate the need for these additives and can pack more energy into the same amount of space.

"Manufacturing this new nanotube gel is very easy," Prof Chen added. "Titanium dioxide and sodium hydroxide are mixed together and stirred under a certain temperature. Battery manufacturers will find it easy to integrate our new gel into their current production processes."
SOURCE URL: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141013090449.htm


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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 5 months ago
    Fantastic! Battery technology/power storage is a real impediment to the alternative energy market. Solar and wind are intermittent. It has been expensive and difficult to maintain sufficient storage capacity to get through the lulls unless you live in certain areas. The common batteries are heavy, expensive, take too long to charge, etc. I have said before that it would be nice to be able to be off grid. I do not want utility companies selling me more expensive electricity for the sake of ecological hysteria, or covering the countryside with wind and solar farms when they won't maintain the grid and improve reliability. It would be so much better to own your own system and be independent/isolated from an antiquated grid. When I can own my property free and clear (no property taxes) and reliably produce my own inexpensive power... That's freedom.
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    • Posted by Mitch 9 years, 5 months ago
      Agreed 100%... I’ve been watching battery technology for some time because of the ramifications it can have with technology, the economy and as you put it “Freedom”. The only thing I see with this is that it still requires lithium which is expensive.

      Earlier this year, Japan Power Plus released information on its technology, dual carbon batteries. A lot of the same benefits but without the lithium. Would reduce the capital expense to producing items requiring batters. I don’t understand how you can have an anode and a cathode produced from the same element and still call it a battery but on the merits of the press-release, it sound promising.

      http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/18250...
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      • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 5 months ago
        Hello Mitch,
        Good article. In regards to the Price of Lithium, if memory serves, there are mining operations all over, but China is one of the larger suppliers. Since we just read a report offered on this site of China's impending food shortage, perhaps a deal could be reached. American farmers could have a valuable commodity for their market... I also wonder how trade policies, duties, and exchange rates effect the price here... Still, if the lifespan is long enough the price per cycle may be attractive.
        Regards,
        O.A.
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  • Posted by mccwho 9 years, 5 months ago
    The solid sulfer battery is more of a breakthrough.

    http://www.ornl.gov/ornl/news/news-relea...
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    • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 5 months ago
      Hello mccwho,
      An interesting article. I would like more details. The real advantage comparing the articles is in the low cost of sulfur due to abundance. They seem to be comparing them to today's commonly used Lithium batteries, not this new variety... What is missing is the lifespan, cycles, charging time, relative size for a given storage capacity... I wonder how a side by side comparison of these metrics would shake out...
      Either way it is a promising development.
      Respectfully,
      O.A.
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      • Posted by mccwho 9 years, 5 months ago
        The energy density for the sulfur battery is approx. 10 times a lithium battery for any given size.
        As with Lithium batteries the cycle life depends on construction. Lithium can be very high, but the cost to make them that way is also very high. In the end sulfur batteries cost less to make and can also have a higher life then currently available lithium batteries but at a lower cost and much safer, in term of flamability. Also there is less impact on the enviroment (mining, processing, etc..) sulfur is very common and easy to get at, lithium is a rare eath. Lithium is used to a small degree in the sulfur battery but no where near the amount in a std. lithium battery. Another point is: the sulfur battery is much easier to recycle and rejuvinate.
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        • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 5 months ago
          Impressive. Is that relative to volume or weight? Do you have any data on recharge time and life cycles? I have often wondered why instead of recharging while on the road they aren't designed for exchange. You could pull into a service station and in five minutes or less slide one battery out on a cart and push another one in. Of course, now, with fast charging this would be unnecessary.
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          • Posted by mccwho 9 years, 5 months ago
            You can find a lot of information on these online now since this discovery is over a year old now. Try searching google for, "Scholarly articles for solid sulfur battery". Not trying to shake off your questions, but just figure it might save some time for you and me and you can get more scientific data that way.
            On the surface I agree with the exchange instead of recharge but the issue with that is you always get the question, "Who is responsible for the bad batteries?" And what if a location has more going out then in, or vice-a-versa? From a business perspective, there would have to be a fee involved that would be enough to cover those and several other logisticical issues, or some semblance of a structured service fee. Because you would also need to invest in testers to test a battery before it goes back out. They could help by putting in electronics to monitor a batteries usage (abuse) and life expectancy based on its cycles of use. Of course that would add to a batteries cost and some of the monitors would inevitably go bad, thusly losing their data. The entire infrastructure to support and exchange program would be doable but someone has to pay for it. When someone has to pay their own money for the consequences of their abuse of a battery they tend to take better care of it.
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            • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 5 months ago
              Hello mccwho,
              Thank you. I will do that search. You seem to be well versed on battery technology. I appreciate that. One thing: Apparently these batteries types are much more sophisticated as far as testing goes. My local auto parts store has a hand held device that he simply clips on to the terminals of my car battery and it tells him instantly if it is low, has a bad cell, or is shorted out... I'm old school... I remember dressing points in my ignition.. Those were the days. :)
              In any case, with fast charging, there will be no need for exchange.
              Regards,
              O.A.
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              • Posted by mccwho 9 years, 5 months ago
                Thank you; I am not exactly well versed in battery technology per say but more of a Renaissance guy. I have a scientific back ground mixed with street smarts, having grown up in poverty and clawed my way up, and still going up (to the top, )I have had over twenty years of business experience. I had a business even when I was working for others and when I served in the military. I always paid attention to the decisions they made and the results of their decisions. So over the years I have developed business wisdom from watching others and learning under their wings. I have read a lot, on a lot of subjects, (a lot) I have made a lot of contacts and built a reputation as a fair but shrewd businessman. AS a result of all of this I have developed a feel for the practical and a talent for thinking things through. Hence my analysis of the logistics needed to support almost any kind of business. I have actually learned some of this from VERY wealthy people (the big B’s $) and have learned to see opportunity’s everywhere. One thing that a very smart guy told me was, “It does not matter what your business is, just learn everything about it, study it from every angle, know it from the inside out. You can run multiple businesses, but know the industries that affect them and then learn them as well.” That is the nugget.
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    • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 5 months ago
      I live 19 miles from ornl, and they do some great
      work over there! -- j

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      • Posted by mccwho 9 years, 5 months ago
        Thats cool. It would be nice to go there someday and take a tour if they have one.

        I live close to Battelle Memorial Institute. I worked there one sumer in the High
        Energy Laser lab while going to college. It is one high security place. They would not even let you go down any other hallway then where you are supposed to be, and rightly so, there is a lot of research going on there.
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        • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 5 months ago
          it's a big place -- buildings spread out over a few
          square miles -- we'd need to try to find out where
          this battery work is being done. -- j

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          • Posted by mccwho 9 years, 5 months ago
            Yea, that would be nice . I would like to find the person who is the project leader and get the contract to manufacture these. If I could find this guy I have a pool of venture capitolist to fund the start up.
            And by a strange twist I do have ownership of a large plot of land in Colorado, lol, in an isolated valley near Twin Lakes. No joke. Its been in the family for 100 years. But doubt setting a factory there is practical. More likely location would be between Denver and the Denver airport (distribution via land and air).
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 5 months ago
    I just imagined Obama giving a speech with a backdrop of Chinese human props all holding those little red Mao books I used to see on TV back in the 60s.
    Obama is saying, "Hey, NTU, you didn't build that. Your government did."
    Interchange the speaker with Hillary, who last week gave a similar speech and then a day later claimed that what she said was not what she really said. Or something like that.
    Watch idiots still vote for her.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 5 months ago
    There is no free lunch though. The charging units would have to have 20x the amp ratings to get the energy in there. If used for car electric power, wouldnt that be thousands of amps? I have a 2 amp cell phone charger now- wouldnt that mean 40 amps for those 2 minutes. Pretty big change in charger requirements that they dont talk about !!!
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    • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 5 months ago
      Hello term2,
      Aren't there high capacity charging systems already in production that could be adapted? I know my alternator in my car can charge a traditional battery with many more amps and auto repair stations have high capacity fast charge 110 volt to 12 volt units... It would seem this obstacle would be easier to overcome than the battery technology has been...
      I would love to hear your thoughts.
      Respectfully,
      O.A.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 9 years, 5 months ago
    I will believe it when I see one installed in a proof of concept vehicle. All we see here is watch cell sized batteries. Over the last 30 years we have seen story after story like this. What works in the lab don't necessarily work in "Full Scale" Many times stories like this are a precursor to getting a government grant. Hopefully it does work, For instance...I laughed 40 years ago when I first heard about a rechargeable Electric drill and it does work very well....but it still isn't the same as having a cord. You pay for every innovation in having to put up with the differences and peculiarities of the technology. In the case of the rechargeable drill, the batteries start crapping out after about 2 to 3 years....especially if you don't use them regularly...But still within certain parameters.. IE: professional carpenters with daily use and several backup batteries charging all the time....they work really well.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 5 months ago
    I hate to say this but new type of graphene_graphite capacitors are the wave of the future. They are capable of storing more power with very short recharge cycle. Most of this experimentation is being done by garage inventors. There are research facilities that are are working to produce new type of batteries but for the most part this is a dead end. These well funded researchers are not even considering Graphene Capacitors. One thing about this type of capacitors they don't wear out.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 5 months ago
    can they make flashlight size batteries. while thes batteries may improve the electric car i'd go after the consumer market for small batteries for toys etc. i wouldn't look for it in cars for a longer time than they suggest.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 5 months ago
    We have a Volt in the garage for one of our cars, its definitely the favorite to drive, electric cars are a hoot. Never ceases to put a grin on your face when an idiot kid with a V8 that doesn't understand the concept of "100% of torque at zero RPM" is revving the engine up or something next to you. Just click the sport-mode button that applies the full force of the battery, and punch it.

    The side benefit of electric cars is no maintenance, which most don't realize. We have the range-extending generator on the Volt, but only runs intermittently and only after the 45 mile battery is discharged. As a result, it gets very little use and we've only had a couple of oil changes on it in over 2 years. Braking is aided by the regenerative system on each wheel, so even the brake pads don't get a lot of use. It's wonderful for the wife's car to basically work and not have to be maintained by me on the weekends, kind of like using a toaster. I don't miss that stuff at all.

    A better battery though would dramatically improve the car though.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 5 months ago
      Government taxes for roads are not yet a factor that will have a chilling effect on their 'economy' when applied to electric cars. At present IC engine cars are paying road taxes for electric. Just another transfer payment thanks to over reaching government messing with free markets.
      Get em outta the way!
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    • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 5 months ago
      Do you have solar panels? I have wondered if the best combination were to be solar (I live in SoCal) and an electric car. I guess the simple question is how much 'over' the size of the solar panels necessary to run your house would you have to get in order to be able to recharge your car too.

      Jan
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