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Voter Posts Video Showing Machine Switching from GOP to Democrats, As Fraud Stories Mount Nationwide | Top Right News

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 5 months ago to Culture
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No one is defending against voter fraud and tampering. Where is the DOJ?
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 5 months ago
    Where's the DOJ? Busy doing training sessions on how to rig voting machines...and how to kick people out of the polls for wearing NRA hats...and stirring up shit in Ferguson. Oh and burying fast and furious...and probably shredding rooms full of documents, all hands on deck style.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 5 months ago
      Yes, comrade citizens, all hands on deck is required to cram through a guarantee for the superior ideology of socialist fundamental change. Lois Lerner knew what she was writing about in her intercepted emails. When you are dealing with moron Constitution lovers, the end always justifies the means. Now all y'all get out there and cheat like there's no tomorrow!
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 5 months ago
    If the Democrats steal this election I'll have no faith left in our voting system. The only positive I see is that it shows desperation on their part. They must be losing big.
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    • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 5 months ago
      The Democrats have stolen an election in Florida that way, and I have no faith in our voting system.
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      • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 5 months ago
        Exactly why I work the polls in my town for every election. If any of that goes on, I will be heard from on it.
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        • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 5 months ago
          I actually went to "early voting" yesterday for the first time. It was pleasant not to have to wait.
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          • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 5 months ago
            I'm one of those permanent "vote by mail" voters... so mine is already cast. I like being able to actually do the research both before, and while I'm voting.

            Big bone of contention - a lot of "local" judges on this ballot. Not a one of the candidates - Zero - submitted anything saying what their qualifications were, why they wanted to be judge, etc... I suspect they expected to be Carte Blanched in just because they were on the ballot... I figure if they can't spend 15-30 minutes of their time, even if it's while they're falling asleep at night, or driving to and from the courthouse or office, to come up with a couple dozen words on what they bring to the table... On why they are a viable candidate, for a job with incredible responsibility and consequences if done wrong - they won't put the 15 to 30 minutes in on an important case that may be before them. They want a moocher's free ride to the job - and I won't give it to them.
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            • Posted by robertmbeard 9 years, 5 months ago
              Judicial races are advertised as "non-partisan", but we know that most judges are not actually impartial and non-partisan. Most voters blindly vote to renew the terms of existing judges. I vote NO unless I have an absolutely good reason to vote YES for reelecting a judge.

              General rule of voting: Vote against all incumbents unless you have a good reason to vote YES, because turnover is better than entrenchment. All politicians are like baby diapers. They should be changed regularly and for the same reason...
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    • Posted by khalling 9 years, 5 months ago
      This is nothing new for Illinois. Although Moline is practically Iowan. Why aren 't these machines removed from action once reported to the pollworkers?
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      • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 5 months ago
        Probably because only certain people are authorized to shut down a machine (and they're at a site across the county from the report, dealing with the voting booth that won't unfold in another polling place)... and even then, those votes "must" be counted, otherwise some voters may, um, be "disenfranchised"...

        I volunteer to be a polling place worker... I can see some "action-driven" worker with ulterior motives making sure that defective machines like this stay in service... others of us, OTOH, would have no problem killing that defective machine - even if it changed all the Dem voted to Libertarian. (Tho, yes, I can see the temptation to let the reprogramed, er, deliberately skewed, er, "defective" machine keep on miscounting - if it cheated in favor of what I wanted...)

        Strange... we never seemed to have this level of fraud when we had paper ballots... even WITH Chad and his hangers...
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      • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 5 months ago
        What happens to the votes cast before the error is discovered? This stinks.
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        • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 5 months ago
          Places that practice true democracy will invalidate the ballot and hold a special election to recast ballots on the issues... Places that deliberately skew these machines will tell people they don't want those early voters "disenfranchised" and count the votes in the machine as the machine recorded them...even if they were dead wrong.
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  • Posted by ddustin 9 years, 5 months ago
    Calibration of Elo touchscreens are very easy to configure incorrectly. When you run calibration it will ask you to touch 5 spots on the screen. If you touch above or below the 5 spots than that will affect future touches in the reverse direction.

    Given that the machine clearly shows an X over the selection anybody with half a mind will see that the touch was off. If he touched a tad lower the second check mark would have been checked.
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 5 months ago
      then you make the hit marker much smaller at the center of each icon and make the icons wider horizontal to each other in the field. Further, you make each field (office area) an entirely separate entity(value - by length or type) when it comes to the validation of the touch. The BS that its easy to mis-configure is just that, its the programming at fault and its being exploited to steal elections IF no one notices. This isn't the first election where its happened and remarkably its always in favor of the dOmocrat. The programmers aren't newbies and they are paid well NOT to make these types of mistakes (I've hired and contracted quite a few over the years), particularly repeatedly.
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      • Posted by ddustin 9 years, 4 months ago
        I find it difficult to believe that quality programmers are both spread about the county and would give up their time to calibrate voting booth touchscreens. Being a quality programmer myself I would never choose voting machine calibration as a career option for myself -- there are many other avenues that afford themselves multiples of higher income than that could possibly offer.

        Given the straight forward nature of calibrating a touch screen -- you have to follow onscreen instructions and tap it 5 times, I have little doubt people with very little understanding of computer mechanics are the ones doing that calibration.
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        • Posted by ddustin 9 years, 4 months ago
          An interesting side note is the patent based monopoly ELO has on their touchscreen technology. ELO touchscreens have been the same technology for a very long time without showing signs of improvement whilst showing steady increases in cost.

          I was ecstatic when I learned that the creator of the now know as "multi-touch" landed a contract with Apple. At the time I had now idea why Apple would want that but I could see the potential of it and I was pumped that somebody saw the value of it when no other company would. Now the reason they did is obvious -- the iPhone was created with a license on his patent.
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    • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 4 months ago
      And the first thing a THINKING VOTER would do when their 'vote' is 'changed' is to yell at the top of their lungs... "This machine is out of calibration and should be taken off-line immediately!"

      THAT is the delivery of a message that's needed and wanted immediately. Youtube and such is a way to get five minutes of fame or a million hits, but doesn't affect anything immediately.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years, 5 months ago
    To counterbalance this we need to "calibrate" some machines to auto-select the Republican. What's fair is fair. Isn't "fairness" the theme of this administration and it's supporters. If it was the other way around we'd never be able to stop the screaming.

    Auto-select = auto-elect. Perhaps that's how our last two elections were resolved, well at least the last one.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 5 months ago
    I'm beginning to sound like a defective CD. (I used to say "a broken record." ) When I first voted, (1955 -- I'm older than dirt) there was not an inkling of thought about voter fraud, especially on a national level. Oh yes, we heard about it happening in some obscure hinterland but it never was a major issue. Now, I hear about it in every kind of election from Dogpatch to Dallas. To me, it has become one of the signposts pointing to the decline of America into the kind of country we used to send foreign aid to. It makes me angry. Then, it makes me sad, which makes me angry again. And here, I had to give up drinking. The Pirate asks, "Where is the DOJ?" Then he answers his own question. Democrat or Republican, there was a time when the chief policeman was respected and expected to do the right thing. Even that has become problematic.!@#$%%$#@!
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 5 months ago
    the question is even if the fraud were to be over come would the republican party actually do things differently that would be of a positive nature? we aren't entering the darkest period as was observed would happen by Ayn Rand we are deep into it. what i find astounding is that those who are perpetuating it haven't a clue as to what they are doing and they have supporters who do not realize that they are going down with the ship. each and everyday another nail is put into the coffin, and soon there will not be enough room for nails.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 5 months ago
    In case no one has noted, the last 10 years or so has seen a huge increase in "unaccountability". This voter fraud is so blatenet, yet no where do you see any action on any legal enforcement part. Yet in other cases, there is huge uproar and demands for investigation. My own involvement has been with a neighbor who had 250 alpacas on 3 acres, who said there was "no problem". The smell and stink, not to mention ecoli coming off the property, was horrible. This guy has perjured himself innumerable times, filed bankruptcy and perjured himself again many times, but the feds said it was too small to require action. The county did nothing until 75 animals dies, the State had been there twice in SWAT mode, and still nothing was done. There is a distinct corrupt version of justice and law enforcement today, and it is driven by a political agenda. The voter fraud in past elections gets told, and then buried. Any time you want to bring it up, you start hearing all the BS crap the Liberals use to shut down discussion such as "conspiracy theorist" or racist, or any one of their hot button names. It won't stop, and can't be stopped until we have some method of enforcement beyond the current corrupt regime. If you want to see what this gets us, look at John Kitzrobber, er Kitzhauber in Oregon. He and his live in girlfriend have been ransacking Oregon for years now, and he has been caught, and all he has done is stonewall any information. He will get re-elected by the same people who would elect Adolf again as long as he gives them what THEY want. Damn the results, and too bad if it hurts you, there is a crowd of self serving imbeciles who will do it every time. Our culture has been manipulated and suborned by people who have no ones interests but their own at heart. AR was absolutely right, we are there.
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  • Posted by Flootus5 9 years, 5 months ago
    Today, I early voted here in Elko County, Nevada. Having heard about this issue, I watched very carefully. The touch screen choices went very well, no aberrations. Now these machines here also generate a paper copy of the ballot choices that slides by in a window on the left. They ask you to check the paper ballot, approve and submit - or - you can go back and redo the process.

    Now, Elko County is a rural very low population part of Nevada and pretty much a Republican stronghold. So, maybe no tampered (excuse me - "calibrated") machines here. But, of course, we feel rather estranged and helpless when we can do nothing about Harry Reid. Elko County is also the third largest County in the US.
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    • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 5 months ago
      You in Nevada have the same problem as we in California - the majority of the state - sizewise - is conservative and Republican/libertarian, while the population centers are increasingly moocherist liberal and Democrat - and because those of us who live in the rural heartland of our states don't have the huge voter numbers, we get stuck with whatever the moochers want... usually to our detriment.

      It's why we're pushing for Jefferson here in NE Cali, and I'm kinda surprised northern Washoe hasn't already seceeded from the rest of the county (maybe become part of Pershing or ??) to join us. :-)
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      • Posted by Flootus5 9 years, 5 months ago
        Haha! The concept I have always advocated - with full tongue in cheek because of its likelihood - is that Nevada trades Clark County to Southern California in exchange for a seceding Northern California. The new entity secedes from the nation. It would have the seaports, the water and timber of Northern Cal, and the geothermal and mineral resource of the Great Basin. The gold and silver that gets mined in Nevada and N Cal gets minted into REAL coin of the realm at the reopened Carson City mint. Adopt a pre-1912 US Constitution and off we go!
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        • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 5 months ago
          Never happen, as there is no way the US will ever lose part of its territory without armed conflict. As good as it would be for we who live here, they would never give up such a plum without a fight.

          Plus... think of the embarrassment to the federals when a stable currency exposed the inflation of the fiat dollar... sure, our lowest average wage (note I did not say "minimum wage" which is an illogical attempt to prop up failing currency through feel-good sham-artistry) is 45¢ an hour... but our J-Buck (Bucksaw?) is worth about 24 of yours. And even then - our buck is still worth more - as it's an actual negotiable monetary instrument, not a piece of funny-money paper - than your $24. We would become not unlike the British Pound Sterling before they got sold up the river by the Fiat Manipulators...

          The first move is to get people off the Koolaid they've been fed for years - that all they can hope for is welfare at the hands of the south, and that alone we'd never make it, that "we'd be the poorest state there is", etc. ad nauseum. We may not be as rich as California, but... and this is the biggie - we wouldn't have to rely on them for their handouts while letting them suck our water and resources dry.
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  • Posted by robertmbeard 9 years, 5 months ago
    Any calibration errors in the electronic voting machine are most likely introduced by someone at the local county Board of Elections.

    Years ago when I lived in Virginia, I volunteered as an election worker for 4 or 5 straight years (local/state elections are in off-years between federal elections in Virginia). Most of those years, our precinct was still using ancient mechanical lever voting machines, which are almost extinct given lack of replacement parts. The last year I volunteered, we switched to new electronic voting machines, as one of the first in the state. It went well.

    Electronic voting machines are first calibrated and tested by the private company supplying each machine. Then, by Virginia law, the local county Board of Elections tests and calibrates each machine before each election. All machines are stored in a controlled area under lock-and-key, with limited access to county election officials. At the start of election day, precinct election workers (volunteers like I was), startup each machine and check the count registers to ensure zeros in every office. Recalibration of the screen is not possible for local precinct election workers, due to limited security access. This is also a first opportunity to discover a screen calibration error (not supposed to be), when selecting the next screen toggle button (albeit usually larger than vote toggle buttons) to scroll to the next summary tally screen.

    When the first voters use the electronic voting machine, any screen calibration errors that are discovered and reported to the election workers results in immediate sidelining and non-use of that machine. A call is made to the county Board of Elections to report the errant machine, while documenting the situation in the precinct paperwork. Any vote tallies from that machine are reported in a separate tally for further investigation by the county Board of Elections.

    In a close election, if questionable votes (from these sidelined machines, from challenge paper ballots, problem absentee ballots, etc...) would be the determining factor in the election, that would be grounds for a later revote of the office(s) in question.

    So, any faulty screen calibration of an electronic voting machine is primarily the fault of the local county Board of Elections, either due to incompetence, laziness, or intentional shenanigans. Local precincts are intentionally staffed with volunteer election workers representing both parties, as evenly as possible, based on whoever volunteers. Having gone through that experience, I can say that intentional and successful vote fraud by local volunteer precinct election workers is the least likely source. That's not to say that the one party machine in Chicago meets the same standards as Virginia, however...

    In reality, every voting system has a certain level of counting accuracy. Optical scan paper ballots are likely still the best, in terms of counting accuracy and least likely for calibration errors introduced by the county Board of Elections.

    From a purely statistical standpoint, any election with a vote difference that is within the margin of counting accuracy of the voting machines should not even have a winner called. But that's not how most election laws are written. They expect perfect counting accuracy and the ability to differentiate a winner who only has 1 more vote than his/her nearest opponent.

    As an engineer who appreciates measurement uncertainty inherent in all measurement systems (including voting systems), I find that misuse pathetic and laughable. In reality, any close election that is within a few tenths of a percent (perhaps 0.5%) should automatically be revoted in a later runoff election. If that runoff has no statistically clear winner, then perhaps a round of rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock should be used to decide a winner...
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  • Posted by Scoutmom 9 years, 5 months ago
    Can you request a paper ballot even in locations with electronic machines or is that the only option?
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    • Posted by robertmbeard 9 years, 5 months ago
      Yes, you legally can always request a paper ballot. The county Board of Elections will count all collected paper ballots, along with absentee ballots. So, any early count tallies reported on election night do not count paper ballot votes and some late absentee ballots not yet counted by the Board of Elections...
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 9 years, 5 months ago
    Where is Jimmy Carter, now that we actually need him?
    I have noticed that not every polling place has judges - the rules are certainly different from state to state - and the state officials who are present should take care of any problems they're told about, but.....
    I thought it would be 2 more years before we lost our voting rights through some "problem". prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
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