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It's Coming To A Neighborhood Near You...

Posted by khalling 9 years, 6 months ago to Government
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just amazing. Those cops should have been charged and gotten lots of jail time. I hope that police forces loses millions of dollars. Read the article before watching the video, some parts are a little confusing, because you don't know who the driver is talking to.
SOURCE URL: http://reason.com/blog/2014/10/07/no-seatbelt-no-problem-weve-got-a-taser

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    Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 6 months ago
    Land of the free? -- don't wear your seatbelt, lose your car window, get tazed, cuffed, and arrested. Now when you finally get home, explain to your 14 and 7 year old child that they should respect the police. He's lucky he didn't die.

    But it's all for officer and public safety, don't you know.
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      Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 6 months ago
      There's a huge benefit to having people call and work with the police if there have been reports of robbery and/or violence. There's a huge cost to people not seeing the police as people they can work with to get rid of crime. Heavyhanded enforcement of minor laws, in addition to being wrong, is so expensive. Who knows how many robbers, rapists, and murderers will get away because law abiding citizens do not trust the police.
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        Posted by khalling 9 years, 6 months ago
        You could feel their fear from the beginning. They told the officers they were headed to the hospital. They were already highly stressed. I have a good friend who was high up on the Seattle force. She says the academy training has significantly changed since she started her career. They spend alot of time on desensitization supposedly so they can better assess threats. However, 9 times out of 10, their actions now are dehumanizing to the vast majority of law abiding people. His wife was on the phone to 911. How many criminals choose that option in a conflict with police. They were pissed because their badges were not respected. Pure and simple. I am glad the 21st century has put a documentor into every person's hand in the form of a camera phone. I am grateful this father was not shot. He was very lucky
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          Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 6 months ago
          It's seems so obvious to me that everyone benefits if policing is done by people who act like normal human beings walking around the areas where they live and work looking for people who look out of place and are maybe planning to steal or do violence. I can't understand dehumanizing people.

          Life is dangerous. Policing is even more dangerous than the average job. You can't make the job safe by dehumanizing people. Police officers must accept the danger. If we had very few laws strictly enforced, there would be an army of law-abiding citizens on every police officer's side. If you have a situation with most people are breaking some law, the whole notion of law breaks down. It aggravates me that this crap is happening despite all our progress at reducing acceptance of violence.
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            Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 6 months ago
            You still miss the primary point of what police duties in a free society are: "...around the areas where they live and work looking for people who look out of place and are maybe planning to steal or do violence." That is not their job. They are simply granted power to apply 'retributive' force after the fact. In no way before.

            When you let them take over the job of protecting you, then you've given them license to also control you -- thus the problem.
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    Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 6 months ago
    I feel like I'm missing something here. What the hell were the cops doing and why? Excessive force at the very least. I hope he wins a big law suit.
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    Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 6 months ago
    They passenger kept reaching into the backseat, and from the cops perspective, I can see how this might have been seen as threatening.

    However, the question is really why did the cops find this as a situation that needed for them to intervene. If they wanted the vehicle to move along, they should have said so. If they had some probable cause of a crime, they should have stated such and asked the vehicle inhabitants to exit. If they had no probable cause, then they should have told them to have a good day.
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