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  • Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 6 months ago
    It appears that Mr. Treanor doesn't really get the point....or else he would NOT try to stop the million future neighbors' disputes...how else will they learn about government intrusion? Blank outs all over the place in CA (well, duh..he drives a Prius). "You can deny reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality." AR
    Wake up Socialist California!!... Oh hell, just fall into the Ocean already.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 6 months ago
    would we not think that an intrinsic part of land
    ownership is the clear access to the sun which
    arrives there? I am a tree farm owner, and still
    think this. if a neighbor's tree branch extends into
    my living room, well, that's encroachment. same
    with blocking the sun. -- j

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    • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 6 months ago
      But johnpe, we're talking about California here!
      Which is greener... the right to grow whatever trees on your own property versus your right to have sunlight impinge, uninhibited, on solar panels you've had installed?

      Battle of the Greens versus Greens. I love it! Just another reason I left CA in '05...
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      • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 6 months ago
        well, in calipornia, the greens might take over my
        tree farm and try to get the trees to suck up more
        CO2 by piping it out there from the mall -- nothing
        like government emasculation of freedom!!! -- j

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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 6 months ago
    [shakes head]

    Here's the sentence that baffled me:
    "There was little communication between the neighbors — until Ms. Bissett introduced three redwood trees in 1996."

    They live next door and don't even talk to each other? No wonder.
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    • Posted by brando79az 9 years, 6 months ago
      I live in Mesa, AZ and made the efforts to communicate with my neighbors. None ever came to me. I spoke with 2 neighbors and wave at them occasionally but 2 others never answer their door and the others are renters that keep turning over. New world
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      • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 6 months ago
        I guess so. My two neighbors (there are empty lots next to us) consist of an older woman caring for her two or three grand-daughters (depending on custody at the time) and a young couple who have frequent unknown houseguests. I'm on good terms with all of them and my children play with the girls next door. It just seems like the idea of a "neighborhood" where people at least say "hi" to each other as they go out their doors is a thing of the past - to our detriment.
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        • Posted by brando79az 9 years, 6 months ago
          When I grew up we all had chain link fences. Then, at some time everyone replaced those with wood fences. Now, all houses have high cinderblock fences.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 6 months ago
            Ewwwwww! Chain link is so 50's!
            And so practical. And so unappealing to the fashion conscious effete elite.
            It's the Rearden Metal of fences!
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            • Posted by TheOldMan 9 years, 6 months ago
              And easy to climb over to get to your friend's house.
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              • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 6 months ago
                Back a few decades ago, we took down a termite-ridden fence between our property and one of our neighbors and replaced it. we included a gate between our front yard sections... to the surprise of many.

                It was so much easier to go through the gate than walk out to the sidewalk just to visit with those wonderful neighbors. Neither of us live there any more. I think the gal we sold our house to made the gate inoperable. But that's Silicon Valley for ya...
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            • Posted by brando79az 9 years, 6 months ago
              haha. Truth be told, even though I want to know my neighbors I don't want them looking into my backyard so I also have cinderblock. More-so, I increased the height of my fences. I still thought that was a good metaphor for the ongoing estrangement of neighbors.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 6 months ago
    i am happy that i live almost in the center of 8 acres so i just don't have to have any problems. i though of selling the property and down sizing, i am happy that i didn't. it is very depressing to constantly read about neighbors in a way attacking neihgbors, and it has gotten worse over the years and will probably get in "worser".
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 6 months ago
    From the article: "“My entire goal was to find a more appropriate tree to place between our two properties,” he said. “To have a 60-foot barrier is unreasonable.”" So Mr. Vargas is a control twit.

    I lost a 50 year old orchard in Portland to a new neighbor with a newly constructed home. She didn't like the fall leaves or the drainage from my property onto hers. Oh well.
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  • Posted by CTYankee 9 years, 6 months ago
    D'OH! I do solar for a living, but I also favor trees over panels. If I were the tree owner, faced with a $1,000/day fine, I'd drop the trees right onto the neighbor's house -- it would look like an accident.

    Actually, way before it got to that point, I'd've concocted a system that sprays carbon-black onto the neighbor's solar panels each night reducing their efficiency by 50-70%.

    On the flip side, if they were my panels and a neighbor tree'd me deliberately, then soluble copper salts will put an end to any tree in short order. Dead trees don't earn sympathy from anybody and present as a hazard rather than a nuisance.
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