Science versus Common Sense

Posted by $ MikeMarotta 9 years, 8 months ago to Science
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Common sense tells us that ice gives off coldness and that plants get their nutrition from the soil. Scientists discovered truths that contradicted and disproved such “obvious” perceptions. Science is a very specific and self-conscious way of exploring beyond the obvious.
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  • Posted by CarolSeer2014 9 years, 8 months ago
    And by the way, Mike---I like to say: It's the equations, stupid!
    At any rate, most quantum physicists and mathematical physicists have come to the conclusion that "reality" is no longer making sense. Even Feynman said someone needs to come along to check the quality of the equations.

    I've studied science, math, economics and logic and scientific method (Also finance and accounting). I guess I define common sense differently.
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago
      "Common sense" is what most people in a time and place accept. It is not what Carol has arrived at after years of studying mathematics and physics. It is difficult to discuss a book you have not read. "In everyday life, one is primarily concerned with usefulness, whereas science is concerned with rather abstract understanding. This is exemplified by Sherlock Holmes when he turns to Watson, who has been castigating him for not knowing about Copernicus and the solar system and says, "What the deuce is it to me if you say we go around the sun. If we went round the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or my work."

      "In fact one of the strongest arguments for the distance between common sense and science is that the whole of science is totally irrelevant to most people's day-to-day lives." (Wolpert, page 16)
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      • Posted by Solver 9 years, 8 months ago
        If only 51% of the people in a mental institution, a year ago, accept that the world is flat, then by that definition, the world being flat is "common sense" there and then.
        And the remaining 49% would disagree with common sense.
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      • Posted by CarolSeer2014 9 years, 8 months ago
        Two other things, Mike. I did not arrive at common sense after decades of study, I was born with it.
        Secondly, common sense and science are not mutually exclusive.
        Thirdly, our gift of foresight would be useless if future did not follow present and present did not follow past.
        Fourth, the whole of science is not totally irrelevant to most people's day to day lives.
        Guess there were 4 things.
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  • Posted by CarolSeer2014 9 years, 8 months ago
    Perhaps I define common sense a little differently. For instance, I truly believe time does not and never has "gone backwards" nor can an individual's consciousness "collapse" the wave function. Also, unlike Dr. Feynman, I don't believe an electron travels over every path imaginable, and it's only the most probable one that we observe. I can give you scores of other examples.
    Well, one thing at least I can say (and I'm being sarcastic, of course) when someone asks me what universe are you living in, I can truthfully reply: The most probable one!
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago
      As above, arguments over the Copenhagen Theory have little affect on the lives of most people, even as we depend on quantum mechanics for the design of our electronic computers. Neither does information theory matter to most people on the information superhighway. Millions of people use GPS devices without knowing relativity, or caring one way or the other. That all is common sense. It is not science. The electronic engineers, the information scientists, and the geodetic scientists who created these systems do care about their interaction. A paradigmatic failure in the theory of electron tunneling would shake the foundations of many studies even (or especially) in life sciences and medicine. Many different kinds of scientists would care a whole lot.
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      • Posted by CarolSeer2014 9 years, 8 months ago
        Perhaps, then, you should define and delimit exactly what you mean when you say relevant to the everyday lives of most people. There's some confusion there, on your part.
        Remember, it's the equations, stupid, not the reality! The equations express outcomes and can make predictions, but they do not describe reality.
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